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HP washing question (Lvl 108 DK)

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by Lonzo, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Lonzo
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    Hi. So I am a 108 DK.

    Below I posted info on my stats regarding my hp, int etc.

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    The question I’m wondering you guys can help with is: do I need to increase my base int with my current trajectory HP washing? (I did the math and with my current MP, I would only be able to wash 27 more times before hittin my min MP)

    Also: by what level will I hit the goal of 18.75 hp?

    Thanks and appreciate the help!
     
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    get int gear
     
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    At the moment, you require
    18750 - 9616 = 9134 HP.
    Assuming your average hp gain for each point put into hp is 52, you would need
    9134 / 52 = 176 (rounded up) points put into hp.
    176 - 27 (Amount of times you can wash currently) = 149 washes required to reach your goal.
    With 40 int as a warrior, you'll gain enough mp for 1 wash a level, so theoretically you'd need to level 149 times to get enough mp for the remaining washes.
    At the moment, your goal is impossible without more points in INT. With decent INT gear, you could get to maybe 100 int more or less, which would be 2 and a half washes each level up.
    149 / 2.5 = 60 (rounded up), you would need to level 60 times with 100 int to reach your goal, ending your washing at lvl 168.
    If you'd like to reach your goal earlier, i'd recommend putting in more points into int from either your fresh AP or by resetting any points currently in hp/mp into INT. Try borrow a friend/guildies int gear if you can also.
     
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    Wow. Thanks so much for the perfect answer to my question.

    Would it be stupid of me to put 60 into int from my current AP points to reach the goal of 100 int?

    Is the only drawback of doing this is that I will require myself more AP resets to reset out my int after hitting 18.75?
     
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    How about HP from leveling?
     
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    That’s right. I forgot about this as well.
     
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    It is not stupid to put 60 INT to get 100 Base INT.
    As long as you have enough NX to reset back those INTs.
     
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    You need to set your desired level to reach 30k HP first, so someone can calculate the required set up.
    Keep in mind that no one can bring up the exact number because HP gain from both Level UP & Fresh AP are random.
    Therefore, most calculation would be made based on minimum HP gain to make sure you can reach your HP goal in case you are extremely unlucky.
     
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    1BC1F7D4-B03A-4D78-A0E0-F4226F22B6FA.jpeg

    If I set my desired level at 169, how come it’s telling me I need 187 int?
     
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    I think that calculator you attached only calculates fresh ap needed to reach 18750.
    I am not sure how much HP you get from Level UP, but it should be close to average of 52.
    If you want to have 18750 at 169, then you have 61 Level UPs to go.
    So, you can substract at least 3k HP from HP needed to reach 18750, and calculate the rest using minimum 50 HP per Fresh AP. (Or, you can use average of 52 HP since the range is 50 ~ 54 HP per Fresh AP.)
     
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    Do as I do, i start in lvl 50 i have 80 INT (40+40) and i have 17k hp with hb and now im DK lvl 83
     
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    OP is already 108.
    So he would need more base INT.
     
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    Min MP Formula for Spearman class = (4 × level) + 156

    Let's say you want to have 18750 HP at 170. (It is close to 169 you put in calculator.)

    Required HP = 18750 - 9616 (Current HP) - 4092 (HP from Level UP at 170 using average 66 per level) = 5042

    Required # of AP Resets = 5042 / 52 (Average value per Fresh AP) = 96.961 = 97 AP Resets required (or more if you are unlucky)

    Min MP = (4 × 170) + 156 = 836

    Required MP = 836 + 388 (4 × 97) = 1224

    Extra MP needed from your current MP = 1224 - 696 = 528

    You will level up 62 times when you reach 170.

    528 / 62 = 8.516

    It means that you need approximately 9 extra MP per level up from now.
    9 extra MP is same as 90 total INTs.

    Therefore, make your total INTs as 90, then you will be able to reach 18750 HP at 170.

    Keep in mind that you might need more or less AP resets based on your luck.
    If you are extremely unlucky, then you might need to have more total INTs.
     
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    Ever, you are amazing for writing this all out for me. I am thinking of possibly increasing my int to 120.

    If i do this, by how many lvls would i shorten up my goal of hitting 18.75 HP? (Hopefully my question makes sense to you)
     
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    Min MP Formula for Spearman class = (4 × level) + 156

    Let's say you want to have 18750 HP at 155.

    Required HP = 18750 - 9616 (Current HP) - 3102 (HP from Level UP at 155 using average 66 per level) = 6032

    Required # of AP Resets = 6032 / 52 (Average value per Fresh AP) = 116 = 116 AP Resets required (or more if you are unlucky)

    Min MP = (4 × 155) + 156 = 776

    Required MP = 776 + 464 (4 × 116) = 1240

    Extra MP needed from your current MP = 1240 - 696 = 544

    You will level up 47 times when you reach 155.

    544 / 47 = 11.57

    It means that you need approximately 12 extra MP per level up from now.
    12 extra MP is same as 120 total INTs.

    Therefore, make your total INTs as 120, then you will be able to reach 18750 HP at 155.

    I recommend making 30k HP by 155 if you decided to go with higher than 100 total INTs because 155 is the level you start to get EXP from Horntail.

    However, if you can't get Berserk 30 by 155, then I would rather go with 170 level route.
     
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    Ever i gotta take you out to coffee or something! You have been the biggest help!!
     
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    HP gain from Level UP for warrior is average of 66 (64 ~ 68). (Not 52 from above post)

    I will fix the calculations according to this value.

    Edit: It turns out that you would need 120 total INTs for 18750 HP at 155.
     
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    Oh! Awesome, that saves more voting time in the long run :]
     
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    Yup.
    I would still take 160+ level route unless you get berserk 30 by 155.
     
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    So are you advising 120 INT or 130 INT?
     

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