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How to Wash to Infinity

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Hiyo, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. kalash
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    Yes, NLs and BMs wash in the same way
     
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    I wanna see this one. you have links?
     
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    any guides to hit 19k HP base by lv 200? I want like 13k+ hp base by lv 170 or 180 for NL
     
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    follow the same method but lesser base int (maybe 200) and mp wash lesser.
    Take: [(Goal HP by lvl 170 - Naked HP by lvl 170)*/16hp from ap resets ]*12mp
    = Extra MP needed by lvl 170 for ur hp goal

    *worst case scenario, no fresh ap on hp used
     
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    Hi is this calculator contains Mp washing or only HP washing ?
     
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    Here's my update on my NL after learning from everyone and this guide, hope it helps someone out!
    Base int: 400
    Int gear: approx 150 int (w/o 3x melody rings and maple leaf, prob 170 after)
    Total int: 590 (after mw20's 40 int bonus)
    HP goal: 28k clean by lvl 180

    when i started mp washing?:
    - lv35 to 50 for extra hp to survive zak (shldnt have done it since afk svc became a thing)
    - continued after only i had 250 base int (couldnt wait to start mp wash) till lvl 126 currently. Gona stop mp washing @ lvl 129 to reach min mp goal for 28k clean hp by lvl 180 (w declining base int to about 200 and int gear per lvl)
    - probably gona mp wash till 140 for more mp cuz of % pot usage to save on bossing pots (caveman maybe?).

    Big thank you to everyone! Maybe we could kick off dmg output for ranged jobs (corsair/nl/bm) with base int at bosses to show if 200 base int cuts it as well? I've seen 150 base int NL doing HT runs
     
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    Can someone explain why from 64-95 the recommendation is to pump points into MP and then reset into INT. Why is it not better to just dump the points into INT those levels and then pump MP after 95; wouldn't that save NX? I'm sure there's logic behind it that I'm not seeing.
     
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    It would save nx assuming you had infinite fresh AP.

    You can only MP wash using fresh AP from level up, and you have a limited number of fresh AP (~1000 from 1-200). When you are washing to an insane amount, every AP matters, and you have to use this method to make sure you get in as many mp washes as possible.
     
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    Hey thanks for the response! I think I’m misinterpreting something in the guide.

    From my understanding, it looks like you would only MP wash until 115 in this guide and then from 116-200 you would just do regular HP washing. Am I missing something?
     
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    Hm. I guess its not using the optimal path. In that case if you are fine with reaching your MP goal at a later level you can delay the regular washes in favor of later MP washes with higher base INT
     
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    Can I also have the same calculation please.

    Thank you!
     
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    Hey, the guide is just very general in teaching some concepts but uh, don't think I have the calculations anymore, but you're able to tweak the numbers, if you want 30k before lvl200 then do more MP washes and by leaving 1 AP in either HP/MP you can use AP Resets to -MP > +HP until you minimum MP.

    Happy washing~
     
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    I guess you mean 31 levels?
     
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    process goes on to 115 as fartsyfartsy said, but theres probably a more realistic and better approach to 30k, this guide is pretty old and inefficient x). I made this when I first learned about MP washing and stale washing as ways to reach 30k, however a lot more optimizations and methods are available and are straight up better.
     
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    Could you please share me the latest guide of HP & MP Washing? I am playing a Bowman and wish to reach 30k HP (I dont really care about MP much). Many links lead to you guide here. Hehe
     
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    Hmm I'm not sure if there are any guides for a better way to do it, but one thing you can do is make the process simpler and your character playable earlier is by achieving X amount of INT (in the 320-400 range), calculate how many MP washes (similar to step 2 in the guide except you don't put the AP back into INT and you leave 1 AP always hanging there) you need to get 30k, you can use this formula compilation to calculate a realistic HP gains all the way to 200. Then after getting your MP to get you enough washes reset all the INT to your main/sub stats and you have a playable character with the MP potential to 30k HP. This process will certainly cost a little bit more in NX but as it stands this is an extreme goal with an extreme price. There are ways to farm NX efficiently like here to help you speed up the process.

    Best of luck on your journey!~
     
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    Thanks so much for writing this guide! I love how this post introduced the terminology of "washing to infinity".

    HeeHeeHeeHee - If you want an additional resource on the matter, I wrote a Night Lord Guide to Thirty Thousand Hit Points. The calculations will apply to Bowmasters as well. Most notably, while this guide covers much of what's already been documented in this thread, it does propose a method that doesn't require you to carry additional Base INT all the way to 200.
     
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    After reading this thread and calculating just under 2 years of daily voting for a perfect 30k hp char, im wondering. What's the build to reach enough HP to be able to do all bosses (at their respective lvls) with HB? In particular, for Sairs?
     
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    to barely clear or to do with comfort?
     

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