do i really have to hp wash?

Btw

Someone else has it for sure

 

Like I've said a few times HP washing is actually a choice (To the extent that most people do).
You do not need to stress yourself with adding decent amount of base INT, if you do not believe that you will be horntailing.

Not everyone plays the game for the same reasons as the others.
Some players enjoy bossing, grinding, getting level 200 etc.
While other players enjoy questing and completing the various list of quests.
Some players enjoy socializing and party questing.

Obviously the only situation where you would need to HP wash is the first option of bossing.
So ... evaluate yourself.
What are you looking for in MapleLegends?
If you are unsure, then the safest bet is to HP wash incase you change your mind.
But if you feel like you aren't interested in it, then its fine!

 

I'm probably in the minority here, but I simply don't care about HP washing. Full stop.

As I understand it, the point of washing is to attain higher HP than you would have normally, for the sole purpose of being able to boss earlier than you would normally. Am I correct here? Or does that it mean that, if you don't wash, you can't do certain bosses AT ALL. It's more of a when than an if. So I *personally* don't see the appeal. I play because I enjoy playing in my free time. There's no guarantee that I'll even get to fourth job, let alone boss level. So why bother? If you're washing, how do you know you'll get to those levels? If you can, more power to you.

I get the theory behind it, but it just seems like an unnecessary pain in the ass. If you have the patience and discipline to stick with that shit, good job. I just wouldn't bother.

 

It's a chicken and egg thing. For ranged attackers, late game bosses represent the best source of EXP (and money). Without washing, you can't level efficiently without bossing and you can't boss without leveling.

 

The server rate is already 2x EXP, and I'm happy with that.

Of course, whether I'll be saying that at level 120, 150, 180+ is another question altogether, but my point stands: it is a factor that is relevant only in the end stages. I only speak for myself, but I have no idea how far I'm going to get. Yes, you can use that as an argument for washing, like, well since you don't know, you might as well so you don't regret it down the line. That's a fair view, but not one that I hold.

 

As of late, I've been wondering what Wizet's intentions were with certain squishy classes.
I would assume everyone's meant to boss at a certain point. It's also my understanding that HP washing wasn't an intended mechanic.

Was Hyper Body expected to be a mandatory skill during high-level bossing?
Also, would allocating the necessary secondary stat points to wear the current level's intended gear assist in surviving these bosses?
Would the extra M. Defense and W. Defense from said gear compared to low-level generic gear make up for the lack of HP?

 

Meh Wizet was brilliant at creating wonderful game worlds that felt alive and were fun to explore, but in terms of gameplay balance and design they clearly had no idea what they were doing (which is probably forgiveable since this game was released back in the days when MMORPG formulae had not been perfected yet).

This results in phenomena like defence stats being utterly useless, extreme imbalances between job power levels and boss damage far outstripping HP values of players at reasonable values.

To be honest 99% players never get as far as joining Horntail parties anyway, so washing for these players sounds unecessary. In fact based on my observations many many players only get as far as finishing Ludi PQ- less have the resilience to brave the level 51-70 gap, and even less to get to 4th job, and less still get their character to an "attacker" stage for boss runs.

Hence for most people I'd just say don't wash unless you were determined to get to bossing parties eventually, and just enjoy the game. Heck you could already do scar/zakum without washing.

 

juz sacrifice luk and add hp ez man

 

I love it when people say endgame is like 4th job or 150.... 187 is halfway to 200 so pretty funny.

 

Endgame is 4th job tho ... there's no job advancement after that.

 

dont you become a gm after 4th job

 

yes this guy totally emphasized the problem with hp wash. good job
which by the way wasnt a part of the original gms to anyone who thinks else
no one played a priest first just to get int gear + leeching mule to ur hp washed char

 

of cuz' u have to hp wash!!
i have 200 base int on my lv60 assassin!
i hit 77 77 with lucky seven btw
i guess im pretty lucky haHAA

 

People actually quickly caught on to the trend once HT came out.
And it was a thing only the top level players did (Or atleast the ones expecting HT/could HT).
During that time MTS was quite popular, so you didn't 100% need to spend $$.
But initially only a limited amount of people knew about it and actually did it.

 

thx for reply
i was quite high and no one i knew did anything like it
also nx was extremely expens (1:10 (?) ) by that time and u would better just spend the nx on gear rather than 3.1k nx (31 mil) on 18 hp
the only thing i saw and did myself was turning the extra mp from zhelm and pendant to hp
and most importantly no one would ditch his acc he played for years to lvl up a new acc
also u can see youtube videos from that time, all first ht tries the nls were extremely low hp even on 18x and needed hp gear to survive on tail ( i can find)

 

I ditched many of my accounts.
Obviously the old nightlords were highly disadvantaged (Still tried to HP wash with strong int gear anyways provided by friends).
The first generation did have a lot of trouble, however they either remade or other members made a nightlord.
With HT books selling to upwards of 1B per pop, and apples at the time were 1-2m each.
It was easy to get the NX required to consistently wash, assuming you had decent gear.

 

That's how I feel. I come back to this server to play, and I spend the whole time leveling my priest or getting money and scrolls for INT gear. By the time I quit again, I still haven't played the character I ACTUALLY want to play which is a marksman.

Usually on other servers when I eventually make the "perfect" character, I'm too burnt out like you said and I quit.

My suggestion on this topic is right here:

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/make-hp-washing-optional.17813/

 

Then you probably had a high HP goal and wanted to hit that early.
It's not like it takes a year of washing to hit 5.6k, around 2 months of voting.
This doesn't include the ability to hunt for them during our past events "summer+halloween".

Like many others your ideals of HP washing are a bit distorted.
HP washing is i believe at a good medium, while its a crutch it's not something that is detrimental for you not to make a regular character first.
Many players have leveled their attackers with 60 ~ base INT, which allows them to boss at the correct levels.
(Correct level to HT is ATLEAST 150, preferably 155-160 as to not cripple your damage due to level disparity damage reduction)

 

can we make it so that with have enough mp to hp wash to survive horntail by 135 without adding requiring any int? this way we dont have to go through the pain of adding int/leeching/doing less dmg/ making a new char...

and please put cd on mage ultimates and buff their bossing that shyt ruins any actual grinding on your own class