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Dark Knight Mastery (resolved)

Discussion in 'Closed/Resolved' started by FistaCuffs, Dec 31, 2017.

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    So, I'm going to preface this by saying I dont know everything there is to know about mastery, so if I'm wrong, please don't roast me. My friend is a Crusader level 114. His range is 1934 - 3533. His minimum range is 54.7% of his maximum range. I'm a 106 Dragon Knight, my range is 924-2658, my minimum range is 34.7% of my maximum range. Am I missing some important calculation here? I have both polearm AND spear mastery maxed with sky skis (i can use any polearm / spear and the results are about the same)
     
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    Quit comparing apples to oranges

    Weapons have different ranges
    Dex also has a pretty notable factor on minimum damage

    A bunch of other shit that might matter here

    Not a bug
     
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    FistaCuffs Mano

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    Well it shouldn't be dex, both me and the other person are dexless. It could be weapons, and that's what I am curious about. IK different weapons have different attack multipliers, but do they also have different mastery multipliers? Because both hero and dragon knight get 60% mastery from their mastery skill, but his range is 20% tighter than mine.
     
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    Most classes it seems the average is 54-57% just from asking random people
     
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    AFAIK spears and polearms have a large damage range, and I'm assuming your crusader friend uses a sword, which has very stable damage in comparison. So methinks it's just the way spears/polearms are.

    Blunt weapons and axes have unstable damage too; you might wanna check with axe and BW users to see if their damage is more unstable than the sword wielders.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the minimum range is irrelevant in 3rd job because it includes the lower attack multiplier (80%? idk) on spear swing/polearm stab. If that's the case, your effective minimum damage would be 1.25x higher after 3rd job.

    edit: DrK also gets more mastery in 4th job iirc
     
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    120 White Knight with BW 1412-3530 .4% and his range is 1956-3533 with sword 55.3% so it looks like you are right merky. Just htought it looked a little off, maybe im wrong sorry for the post :x
     
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    Arny, i hadn't even thought of that lol.. wow lol.
     
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    Few things you need to realize when comparing,

    1. You probably don't have the same equips and stats
    2. You are comparing 2 different weapons (Different weapons have a higher/lower multiplier)
    3. You are 2 different classes (DrK's in 4th job have a skill that further increases their mastery)

    So no it's not a bug, don't worry!
     
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    No worries. I figured that certain weapons would have a larger damage range but I didn't expect the range to be this large too.

    That is a very good point too that I didn't think of.
     
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    The link: https://ayumilovemaple.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/maplestory-formula-compilation/

    This is my go-to for damage calcs; However, I'm not sure if legends uses the same formulas. (However, the formulas mirror what Merky and Hyoon were saying).

    **Rumor has it -- that if this discussion get interesting enough -- Navi will show up and literally copy + paste the relavent lines of code into the discussion thread**
     

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