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Map owner abuse?

Discussion in 'Rejected' started by LeftBawlSack, Dec 24, 2017.

  1. Discor
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    I think that is a solid idea , make several chanels pvp , a place for ksing and competition wile leaving the rest for kamping
     
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    WHAT IF YOU WANNA TAKE A SHIT?
     
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    I'm thinking how this would affect Bigfoot maps. Cus a lot of times you have lower lvl mapowners that seek out BF hunters so they can get toes or let's say save it for their guildie.

    With the new system a lower lvl char could see the BF but won't be able to hit (accuracy issues) and some asshole hunter might come along and snipe it and maybe even refuse to give the toe.

    It's an interesting suggestion but I feel like it would take away from a largely important community based aspect of the game. Guilds, alliances, BLs, etc etc
     
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    Then you dont desreve to boss , muhahaha real bossers use diapers like jet pilots ^_^
     
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    "Save it for their guildie" that is still in a way a mule camping for you though, because the person who found the BF shouldnt be able to "own" the BF just because he found it and be able to give away the BF as if it was his property as a gift to someone in his guild.
     
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    When I was camping at the Tae Roon maps, I was training on the mobs there too. Sometimes Tae Roon spawns and a moron drops into the map and steals the kill while I'm trying to hack and slash my way past the pandas. I don't see how I don't get priority for killing Tae Roon if I camped there for the boss (not holding the map for someone else) and I'm able to hit the mobs and the boss.
     
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    Add a verification right when the boss spawned then..of mobs killed per minute or something. Whoever killed the most mobs in the past minute, is automatically assigned boss owner? If the player doesnt hit the boss for let's say 10-15 seconds the bossowner becomes free for whoever hits it first.
    This would solve people randomly coming in the map and taking the boss when it just spawned and this would solve the problem of mules holding maps because they wouldnt be able to hit the boss. I assume...
     
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    I've also suffered this mapowner mechanism with bosses like bigfoot and anego (this one not very much since its really hard to get I may have killed under 10 anegos in my whole "life" in this server and I dont care that much) But I have to say that I've also taken advantage of that mechanism (having my leecher to seek out and keep a bigfoot for me while I'm killing on other channel) I've never done that with a mule though (yikes) but what can I say? Do we want to remove the mapowner and start an even bigger drama? Or making a different system, a custom like one? Separate mobs from bosses? In my opinion you need to deal with this system, the rule is clear: "The mapowner command ALWAYS decides who owns a map" If you want the map, then you need to make up an strategy to get it. It is frustrating, yes, but we need to deal with it no more no less.
     
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    Can i freely rush ANegos/Bigfoots into people plzzzzz w/o getting banned for harassment :D
     
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    I dont see why we have to even change the system to boss owner or anything. The GMs who enforce map owner should just refuse to enforce bans in the case of obvious abuse. For example if they get a report from a level 30 character that is obviously a mule who cant kill anego, they should just not ban the "ksing" character who killed the anego.

    I think in all cases with a little common sense it is obvious what should be done in each situation from a fairness perspective.

    Examples:
    2 Level 70 players fighting over tae roon, map owner take priority and ksing player punished.

    2 level 150 players fighting over anego, map owner take priority and ksing player punished.

    1 level 30 player and 1 level 150 player at anego/bf/crow/whatever, lv 30's map owner should not matter and 150 player should not be punished

    This doesnt solve issues like mapowner being stolen when going to fm to hs before kill, but I think it counteracts the most obviously abusive situations.
     
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    How about a simple new rule that says,

    "A player may hold only one mapowner at any given time."

    So if you open multiple clients and camp out at many anego channels, that would be against the rules.

    How to enforce: if you suspect character A and character B are the person holding multiple maps, call GM and report. GM checks the IP address of A and B. If the IP address are the same, GM disconnects A and B which would cause them to lose map ownership.
     
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    Just allow ks wars, ez game ez life
     
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    people would go that far?? / how many people got 8 phones for 8 laptops?!
     
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    I personally know a guy using 5 , unfortunately.
    People vote abuse , whats the issue to do something that brings you even more profit ? for them of-course..
     
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    Mapowner timer will be reduced from 10 minutes to 5 minutes real soon. It was suggested it was already 5 but apparently its not.
     
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