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monster invasion events and items?

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by 2ndright, Apr 8, 2018.

do you want to see more summoning sacks and summoning events in maplelegends

  1. yes

    64.3%
  2. no

    10.7%
  3. don't care

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  1. 2ndright
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    2ndright Red Snail

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    I am new to the server but noticed that summoning sacks from ludi quest are not rewarded, I assume this is to keep players from killing other players and that is understandable but was curious if they could be changed back to the original rewards, summoning sacks are a part of the nostalgic experience and I do miss when unexpected monsters were randomly summoned, even as a low level, I never mind being killed by summoned monsters, it brought an interesting element to maplestory. Also, was curious if you guys ever did live events like maplestory, by this, I mean do you guys ever summon monsters and bosses in towns? this was also part of the original experience. I believe they were called days of darkness events. anyways just a thought and wanted to know what the legends community and staff thought about it.
     
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    We did have a way to obtain limited time summoning bags during last year's Halloween event, so unless GMs didn't like the result, there is a chance that summoning bags will be back in the future.
     
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    Since joining in October, I've never seen a mini event in-game where mobs or bosses were summoned. I would like it if it would happen, though.
     
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    In the original maplestory, you were able to obtain summoning sacks through ludi quest, events and gachapon, if they added back all the original ways to get them, gaurentee the server pop would increase. People like those random encounters, they are what makes an amazing game
     
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    summoning sacks were removed for "harassment"
     
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    S>25 summoning sacks(;
     
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    We had them, but then #nooblivesmatter happened and now they're gone
     
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    the creators of maplestory added them in the game for a purpose, they are part of the game and to remove them would be to take away the full experience. From the polls ive taken not just for this server, I have found that a majority of people want them in the game. For the few people who dislike summoning sacks, you need to understand that players like myself want the full original experience and by removing summoning sacks we are denied that. I like all the challenges the game has to offer and every time a challenge is removed, It becomes less accomplishing.
     
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    Hey 2ndright! I understand that you're feeling angry and disappointed that such a feature isn't in MapleLegends especially since it was present in old school maplestory. You're unable to have the full experience as you've probably had a lot of fun randomly sacking others and being sacked yourself too. So why should sacks even be removed in the first place?!

    From what I understand, Kim's point of view is that the main usage of these sacks are used to kill either inattentive users or low level newbs. I do recognise that using them to kill friends for trolling is one of the fun side of having these sacks around too. However, these largely fall under toxic behaviours and Kim's aim of the server is to provide a friendly and sociable server, not just for old maplers but also new players who just started playing maple for the first time.

    Like you, I've played maple in the past where random barlogs were seen in kerning and tons of tombstone around. But when comparing between potential toxic behaviours and fun for killing newbies/friends, I would personally side on removing sacks.

    I understand that I may not have changed your mind, but I hope you do see the merits in removing sacks. I'm sorry that your experience has been diminished by this removal and I hope that you're not top affected by it. Ultimately, this server is still Kim's "product" and it should follow her directions. Otherwise, it would have lost its meaning . All in all, I hope that you have an enjoyable and fun time here!
     
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    I can see your point of view, and I dislike toxic behavior, but that was not the only thing summoning sacks were used for, the problem is toxic people, not items. The poll speaks for itself, I haven't played on this server since I found out it was anti summoning sack, but will be willing to give it another try if they readd them, if I want a typical sunshine and rainbows game, there are plenty of them out there for me to choose from. By all means, the owner has every right to do what she wants, I applaud her for getting this many players, and I'm just saying that if she readded them into the game, it would make for a more enjoyable experience. I'd prefer to get killed by some monsters then get my account hacked persinaly, if trolls can't take out their crap one way they will find another way its human nature.
     
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    Summoning sacks will not be introduced by normal means. Even when we had them temp in Halloween last year people put them in beginner shops, houses, etc. While in GMS that barely work out since a higher level person will eventually visit the place, it was horrible here and blocks new people from progressing in the game. While a lot of maps in Vic are blocked now I still do not want add summoning sacks in normal gameplay.
     
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    I see what your saying but couldn't the low levels just change channels? I dislike when they are used irisponcibaly and I do not condone it. But they are a part of the game...... Do as you will, it is your server, if you change your mind, please say so in this thread, also, ever thought about having controlled monster events, with proper warnings they cannot fail, if you need event admins ill volenteer. I don't really play this game but being an event admin would be kind of fun.
     
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    Kimmy Administrator Staff Member Administrator Game Moderator

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    I guess I wasn't specific enough. People are setting monsters in beginner maps in all channels. So no, they can't. Also, this was my response to summon bags, not summon events.
     
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    I would find who ever is doing it on all channels and ban them that is player harrasment without a doubt, but using them to host player events is fun, that's all I ever did on the original game.... I wouldn't let those trolls ruin them for the rest of us.
     
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    I know you've registered Sunday, maybe a bit older, but we have tried a lot of methods since 2015. From 2015 to 2017 sacks were completely locked and as experiment we re-introduced them in 2017's Halloween and the same harassment, following newbies to sack them (even CCing and following) and spamming sacks in vic stores continued.

    I have zero interest in summon sacks and knowing the experience now here for 3 years and the experience in other servers I do not want introduce them in normal ways, events at max. Summoning Events is something I was never against on and I believe even SerinSerin did one not that long ago, but at same time those need be balanced because the mobs still drop their stuff.
     
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    2ndright Red Snail

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    Well, if you don't want to introduce them into the game, that's fine, I just can't find a purpose with maplestory anymore. If you need event admins don't hesitate to ask me, the only real fun I ever had in the game was with summoning sacks and I doubt there is a single person that wasn't employed with Neckson that has more experience with summoning sacks than I.
     
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    Only problem for me was choosing monsters that didn't give specific benefits over others + people killed too fast/people getting killed too fast + inability to give fair event rewards to players who joined. Still working on it though!
     
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    2ndright Red Snail

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    That's cool, strong monsters are effective because they do not drop the same as a boss also shows boss doesn't drop anything good
     

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