1. Hello!

    First of all, welcome to MapleLegends! You are currently viewing the forums as a guest, so you can only view the first post of every topic. We highly recommend registering so you can be part of our community.

    By registering to our forums you can introduce yourself and make your first friends, talk in the shoutbox, contribute, and much more!

    This process only takes a few minutes and you can always decide to lurk even after!

    - MapleLegends Administration-
  2. Experiencing disconnecting after inserting your login info? Make sure you are on the latest MapleLegends version. The current latest version is found by clicking here.
    Dismiss Notice

Doesnt Neo Tokyo just make the hp washing issue bigger

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 8ravens, Sep 17, 2018.

  1. Luscious
    Offline

    Luscious Mr. Anchor

    261
    69
    257
    May 2, 2017
    Male
    10:16 AM
    Luscious, MoeMoe, Spicy
    Demure
    It seems like everybody went on and conveniently ignored FishyFishy post where he explains that the mechanics of the boss allows you to dodge all attacks.

    People in this thread are so quick to complain and whine before they even know all the facts. You don't even need to join Castellan Toad to reach Neo Tokyo because the Toad Oil that you need for the quest is tradeable. It's understandable to have anxiety when you lack knowledge but how about open your eyes/ears and shut your mouth more often. It's good life advice in general.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2018
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Like Like x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  2. DrJason
    Offline

    DrJason Windraider

    434
    189
    301
    May 30, 2018
    Male
    Canada
    1:16 PM
    DrJason, Zrar, WhyDaggers
    Islander, F/P Arch Mage
    Oddjobs
    Actually Pink Bean is "easier" than Castellan toad in terms of required HP. Pre-BB I remember it doing about 12k damage (so 7.5k HP before HB). (Touch damage did ~27k but you shouldn't be touching it, Damage Reflect basically auto-killed everyone but that only happens if you screw up). Despite this, people on GMS still managed to kill it (only after miracle cubes were added though). Although I personally only killed it after BB, I did go on a few unsuccessful runs with both a BM (unwashed) and a Paladin pre-BB. The problem wasn't the HP (remember that this boss was meant for end-end-game, like 19x-200) it was the DPS required to do 7b damage in an hour, as well as dealing with Damage Reflect. On my BM we didn't even clear the statues in time so the HP requirement was an afterthought (I could survive the statues easily with HB except for Ariel). If PB was added to Legends the timer would need to be increased/removed but otherwise it is possible (there is the whole balancing can of worms for the 120 weapons it drops though... which don't really belong / can't be coded in v62 because they "level up" and give skill points)

    So I think Neo Tokyo really is the highest HP requirement in all of Pre-BB MapleStory. And if all the attacks are indeed dodge able then there is no problem. I only played the Neo City version but I do sort of remember Auf-Haven / Dunas having map-wide attacks though...
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Useful Useful x 1
  3. Sucre
    Offline

    Sucre Zakum

    1,484
    2,561
    521
    Apr 21, 2015
    Male
    Argentina
    2:16 PM
    Sucre
    Dark Knight
    155
    Horny
    Im a dk, hmu for some dank hb TriHard
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
  4. Fishy
    Offline

    Fishy Skelegon Retired Staff

    924
    304
    403
    Apr 8, 2017
    Male
    10:16 AM
    Eiji
    Dark Knight
    200
    Beaters
    thanks man, i appreciate it fro acknowledging it
     
  5. kalash
    Offline

    kalash Headless Horseman

    831
    233
    376
    Oct 18, 2016
    Male
    7:16 PM
    Kalash
    Night Lord
    200
    Halcyon
    The fact remains that NT might actually make other jobs (buccs? :confused:) more popular. It's a privelage, not a right, to be able to do bosses like toad on a ranged character.
     
    • Like Like x 6
  6. Diego
    Offline

    Diego Capt. Latanica

    325
    529
    288
    Jun 7, 2015
    12:16 PM
    I think this is how we should approach new content. I see many people approach to the game is only to play the so called "end game" and ignoring the rest of the levels (and the content available for them) completely. I know, killing bosses is exciting, and gives you cool things like EXP, valuable items, a sense of acomplishment, and so on. But I do believe that is not the only enjoyable aspect of the game. And yes I am late and poorly HP washed (always had 4 base INT), and yes I cannot do many bosses without relying on HB/having to be resurrected sometimes but that's not the end of the world, do not stress yourself too much about that "late game bossing" it is good and fun just not always. And as many have pointed out there are ways to get it around. After all colaboration can be even more powerful than stats in this game sometimes ;)
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Friendly Friendly x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  7. kissMagE
    Offline

    kissMagE Selkie Jr.

    224
    19
    211
    May 28, 2017
    Female
    1:16 AM
    JoeL
    Beginner
    Are you sure?
     
  8. Fishy
    Offline

    Fishy Skelegon Retired Staff

    924
    304
    403
    Apr 8, 2017
    Male
    10:16 AM
    Eiji
    Dark Knight
    200
    Beaters
    yes im sure, ive seen them do it
     
  9. AioriaX
    Offline

    AioriaX Selkie Jr.

    211
    89
    210
    Jul 25, 2017
    Male
    1:16 AM
    AioriaX
    Night Lord
    200
    Beaters
    TheBoss for ranged.
    Toad for warriors.
    NeoTokyo for washed.
    MonKaS

    On a side note can you really 100% evade all attacks by ducking in time? I saw the video people still get hit for up to 12.9k damage.

    That 37 minute run wasn't 6man btw. It was like 2 parties. One of the parties was the 200's and perf wep gang. Screen Shot 2018-09-19 at 2.11.14 PM.png

    I still love you eiji f3
     
  10. Fishy
    Offline

    Fishy Skelegon Retired Staff

    924
    304
    403
    Apr 8, 2017
    Male
    10:16 AM
    Eiji
    Dark Knight
    200
    Beaters
    then those dumb lvl 200s jebaited us f3
    and yes it is 100% possible to duck and dodge, u just have to be good at it, and know the timings... i suck at it :D
     
  11. Angbak
    Offline

    Angbak Timer

    107
    20
    121
    Aug 10, 2017
    Male
    1:16 AM
    Angbak
    Bishop
    168
    Teach me how to dodge as a corsair ;-;
     
  12. Fishy
    Offline

    Fishy Skelegon Retired Staff

    924
    304
    403
    Apr 8, 2017
    Male
    10:16 AM
    Eiji
    Dark Knight
    200
    Beaters
    you lay down and duck underwater when the laser comes out
     
  13. Alyosha
    Offline

    Alyosha Skelegon Retired Staff

    933
    680
    413
    Mar 9, 2017
    10:16 AM
    Dostoevsky
    Dark Knight
    200
    Spirit
    • Funny Funny x 1
  14. MissBehaving
    Offline

    MissBehaving Mixed Golem

    161
    41
    173
    Apr 7, 2017
    Female
    1:16 PM
    PissBehaving
    I/L Arch Mage
    200
    new content?

    :thinking:
     
  15. Frazen
    Offline

    Frazen Pink Teddy

    71
    114
    86
    Jan 24, 2016
    Male
    Singapore
    1:16 AM
    Frazen
    Night Lord
    999
    Hi handsome. With you, it will be 10mins.
    I like how deadmure is still being mentioned even after majority of the guild already quit.

    This forum can never stop repeating the HP washing topics. Expecting to be able to do every single content/boss just cause it comes out.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  16. Heartiess
    Online

    Heartiess Guest

    6:16 PM
    What about P R O J E C T TriHard
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  17. Shinohara
    Offline

    Shinohara Headless Horseman

    726
    399
    372
    Mar 31, 2017
    Calderock Village
    2:16 AM
    Saratoga / Sogohara / Tsushima
    Bishop
    140
    ☆ Aqours ☆
    Washing is not necessary for Neo Tokyo bosses.
    I am assuming that the worry of washing probably came from the high damage output but you should note that majority of the boss attacks can be totally evaded via bending down, moving out of the boss's attack range, etc which then becomes more of a skill of speed and reaction time as opposed to merely standing there and tanking unavoidable attacks.

    In another note, at least the bosses only deal high damages instead of dishing out instant KOs like in other games. :hungover:
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  18. kalash
    Offline

    kalash Headless Horseman

    831
    233
    376
    Oct 18, 2016
    Male
    7:16 PM
    Kalash
    Night Lord
    200
    Halcyon
    I couldn't agree more with this. Thank you for pointing this out!
     
  19. Althariisa
    Offline

    Althariisa Slimy

    241
    57
    230
    Jul 17, 2018
    Female
    2:16 PM
    Tauriel
    Dark Knight
    200
    Honor
    I really Enjoy the new added Dificulty.
     
  20. Fishy
    Offline

    Fishy Skelegon Retired Staff

    924
    304
    403
    Apr 8, 2017
    Male
    10:16 AM
    Eiji
    Dark Knight
    200
    Beaters
    CONFIRMED 3RD BOSS, YOU ONYL NEED 7.6K HP. SO STOP COMPLAINING.
     

Share This Page