Remove "Player has chosen to not lose fame"

Harassment is also against the ToS so if you believe they are, you may screenshot it for proof and report the person for abuse.

 

In another note, if you're getting annoyed by someone to the point of disliking them in a game like MS.
You know its time to take a short break to cool off.

 

I believe I was one (if not one of many) who brought Kimmy to her current decision. Consider the following scenario and then look at the two main arguments below.
If we were playing with classic GMS rules, I could defame you 30 times if you were just standing in the FM afk. Let's assume you could do that to me, too. Great - now I just fame my own character 24 times per month. You'll have long forgotten about me after a month, and I'm going to continue to make myself look awesome.

1. When I took Kimberly's premise that mass defaming is a form of harassment, then the contrapositive must also be true; mass faming yourself must also be a form of harassment. It wouldn't seem like it on its face, but when you delve into the original purpose of the fame system, it very much is a form of harassment because, like I showed above, I can continue to fame myself into looking like I should be well trusted, but in reality it's all deception and the defames I've accumulated from being a jerk has all been effectively erased - which, in an admittedly convoluted way, allows me to harass others without repercussion from the community. (I do emphasize "community" as I still face repercussions from the administrators).

2. I also looked at Kimberly's premise that mass defaming is a form of harassment and noted one serious problem. If the game allows me to defame, why isn't there something in the programming to prevent me from mass-defaming? It is completely inappropriate to give someone a thing that has a particular function, and then say you're not allowed to use that function without punishment (in this case, being banned). If the game's parameters allows for such functions, then you cannot hold the players responsible for utilizing that function. This is where Kimberly instituted the function that allowed you to choose to gain and/or lose fame at your discretion. Some people want to have an exact amount of fame and do not want it changed, so it is possible to keep your fame static now.

In the end, Neckson thought the fame system would work well in promoting accountability within the community. Sadly, it failed miserably. There are too many complicating factors that make it infeasible to use as a reliable way to keep players' behaviors in check. The best thing to do is just forget them. If they've done something that breaks the ToS, you can report them. And you can always Blacklist them, too, to make sure they can't talk to you unless they're in the same map as you.

 

Main reason I don't like having my defame option on.
Because we're in 2019 and even when I saw Hej to someone they think I'm being provocative and start shouting at me.

No thanks, keep it this way, I don't like being harassed / mass defamed by 13 yo kids that can't take some sarcasm.

 

Na I don't see any benefit for it. Doesnt add anything fun or interesting to the game, its just something negative and causes a lot of fuss among people. If anything I'd suggest to remove fame entirely.

 

Just because public wants something doesn't mean we will implement them in the server.

 

Sure, a single defame isn't that big of a deal, but figure how the administrators would then have to investigate claims of mass defame. The individual would have to screenshot all the defames they acquired (assuming they were aware of it and not afk in the FM at the time) and then the admins would have to investigate whether these players are all on the same account. If there are multiple accounts, then they have to investigate whether or not these all stem from the same player (and a simple IP address should reveal that) - but then we hit the same major problem the MapleLegends staff has run into time and time again. What if two players, who live together, choose to defame the same person? It appears as if it's the same person as they may have separate accounts, they do have the same IP address. Should the admins ban the two players under the misunderstanding that they are actually two people who happen to both be playing from the same location? And, again, these single defames are easily erased from simply buying fame from someone.

If the fame system were revamped, then maybe. It would have to be the same type of fame system as done on the forums for a post. Everyone gets exactly one vote, and the vote stays permanent until the player chooses to adjust it. In the case of a mass-defame, people are going to quickly see the same names on the list for "defame" and you can get the idea that either this person has managed to piss off one person or a particular group of people (guild?).

I understand your desire to flip them the bird, but defaming them is no different then telling them to f*** off. It's easier for everyone, especially the admins who we all would prefer spent more time on game development than community behavior management. Oh, and if someone loots your map w/o your permission, take a snapshot after you type in the command @mapowner and file the complaint. The offender will get a warning (unless they already had a previous warning and then they might get banned).

 

According to the Terms of Service, this warrants a ban, not a warning, under 3.3 Harassment. Warning is only if the staff taking action believes it to be a light offense.

 

Which they typically do just give a warning - at least that has been my experience.

 

It all depends on the context but I was simply pointing out the misinformation that the offender will receive a warning unless they were already warned. They are subject to a ban right away.

 

Neckson said the same and look at gms now

edit why I can’t write n-exon

 

Wait I want all the defames :^) but honestly people should be so butt hurt over a mechanic that doesn't benefit you in anyway except for wearing "dark" armor kekw