MP Washing, HP Washing, Double Washing?

What Kalash is saying is, the regular HP Washing is taking your FRESH AP into HP, and then using AP reset to deduct 1 point from your MP pool to reset back 1 point into your INT pool (the point that you have added into HP in step 1).

However, this step only gives you a bonus of 6-8 HP, and a bonus of 0 MP (Because you did not add any points into MP during this wash).

If you use the FRESH AP into MP instead, you gain about 100 MP depending on your INT (which you should have pretty high base INT as a mage). This additional pool of MP that you have gained (versus 0 from the regular HP wash) lets you wash a few more additional points of that MP into HP.
Eventhough the HP gain is fixed at 6 HP (versus 6-8 from regular HP wash), 6 x multiple wash is more than 6-8 x one wash.

The gist of it all is, MP wash. Just MP wash, and when you have a high pool of MP, just use as many AP resets as you want to deduct points from MP to add into your HP if you want more HP.

 

Yes that's how you do it for normal classes if you don't want to mp wash.

Aioriax explained why you should mp wash and then wash mp into hp very clearly. Please read that post.

 

Nope, you can do the mp washing for any class

 

the way i know how to do it is simple :
1: for MP washing you MUST use only fresh AP u get from leveling up .
For example if you use AP resets to take AP from INT and add to MP , then use AP resets to take out MP and give back to INT
you do not get extra MP.
but if when you level up you put fresh AP in to MP and then use AP resets to take out of MP and allocate to INT you are left with extra MP from this process.
2: for HP washing you DON'T have to use fresh AP.
for example the way i do it is : i use 1 AP reset to take AP from LUK ,( i have luk don't ask) , and put it into hp and then use as much AP resets as i want to take out of MP and into HP , and the last AP reset i use to take out of HP and back in to LUK.
3: the main thing is that a mage gets a huge mp bonus from fresh ap when mp washing while other classes do not get the bonus, so using fresh ap to hp wash instead of mp washing is a waste for a mage class .
4: on the other hand warriors get a huge bonus to hp from fresh ap , so as a warrior you should use only fresh ap to hp wash.
5: to my knowledge the difference between fresh ap and ap from ap reset (when you put them into hp) is about 2-3 extra hp .

 

yes , just 3 pointers:
1: do not use fresh ap ( it is a waste ), use it for mp washing.
2: you should hp wash after u have 28k mp or more .
3: before u reset ap from mp into hp u need to use 1 ap reset to take from other stat ( lets say int) and allocate it into hp, and after u finish hp washing u use an ap reset to take from hp and put it back into the stat ( int in the example).

 

p.s for extra hp i recommend doing the monster ring quest and getting it to tier 7 , it gives a huge hp bonus and does not require nx to do

 

for point 3, do you mean use an ap reset to take 1 AP from MP, and put it back int to the int?

 

it means what it says , i don't understand the question .
but i can elaborate a little more:
The thing that enables u to hp wash is that HP and MP share the same AP pool unlike other stats , so before u can start allocating MP into HP u need to put 1 AP into the MP/HP pool ( does not matter which ), and since u don't wish to leave that first AP in the HP/MP pool after u finish the wash session u take it out and put it in whatever stat u want.

 

Don't MP Wash before lvl 120.
Mostly because you have to take in consideration the amount of MP needed to AP Reset.
iirc a Mage needs ~30 MP to remove when using an AP Reset.
(sorry if I did calcs wrong before. IT'S 30MP, not 40MP)

If you were to start at LVL 80 you'd surely have something like
10 + 80*5 = 410INT
Which is basically 41mp per AP put into MP, that's not good enough when you use an AP Reset, because you're just gaining 11MP, and that's a waste of 3100NX for no real big gains.
(3100/10 = 310NX per MP that's bad/expensive)

That's why people mostly start to MP Wash at lvl 120, because you have
10 + 120*5 = 610INT
This means you'll get 61MP per AP put into MP, after using the AP Reset you will gain
61 - 30 = 31 MP per wash.
Now that's more profitable per AP Reset price
(3100/21 = 100NX per MP that's good/less expensive per MP gain)

at max, if you're scared of not getting the sweet 30k MP early, start washing at lvl 100 or 110, but bare in mind you'll get less gains per NX you put in

 

I do not know the math but from experience you are very wrong!
i started to MP wash at lvl 70 , i had around 400 total int, i got 40 MP per reset so about 200 per lvl ( since i washed 5 ap per lvl).
now at lvl 90 i get 240 mp per lvl .
i have no idea how the formulas work but in practice your statement is wrong.

EDIT: and that is on top of the 100 mp i got for the lvl up

 

Yeah but Total INT ≠ MP Washing

Because MP Washing is based off of Base INT.

 

Motto your base int is your gain after the wash. Your gained mp is int/10-2+30 for 1 ap into mp. Those 30 is taken out when you wash mp into int, leaving you with a gain of int/10-2.
(It's 30, not 40). Please don't spread fake information. These people need real info.

 

Sorry, my calculator is broken then.



I fixed the post

 

something is not right with your fixed calculations ether.
as i said before at lvl 70 i got 40 mp per reset , 200 extra mp per lvl .

by lvl 80 i was getting 45 mp per reset.