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Advanced HP wash calculator V0.41

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Chew, Sep 25, 2017.

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    I'm at the job right now, will take a look at the corrections and suggestions when I get home, thanks :)
     
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    Yes I'm aware. Do you have a suggestion? Do you want a calculator for people who are already in progression? Because I can make that, just wasnt sure anyone would care.
    Thanks for taking your time proving this.
    This has now been changed to 16~20.
    1. About maplewarrior, that sounds very odd, do you have a source for that? Because I've never heard that claim before.
      EDIT: Your right, I'll have this fixed.
      I'll make an input field for start MW (Lvl)
    2. About int gear below lvl 7, I renamed the collon to "Use start", to indicate that you type in the lvl you start wearing the equip.
      If you meant something else, please go into more detail :)
    3. About purely pumping INT not being possible, your absolutely right, I will have to take care of this issue.
    4. Gear upgrades is not on my to do list. Simply because I fear the average user would be overwhelmed by the vast amount of input cells this would require to pull of.
    5. No, the cost analysis is "HP washes needed to reach the goal HP divided by the price of a single AP reset"
      "This is then summed with the price of taking the points out of INT again"
      Therefore it adds up to the costs at the goal level.
      If this doesn't make sense to you, try and click the calculation cells in google sheets, it will then show you the calculations.
     
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    I gained only 18 HP using AP reset way despite having Improve MaxHP skill maxed as a Brawler.
    Might be a bug though so for other Brawlers out there beware.
     
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    I suggest you make a bug thread with evidence as this is clearly a bug that need immediate attention. Also I can confirm warriors do not have this issue. KimberlyKimberly what's up with this bug, are you guys aware of it?
     
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    I've mentioned this to staff privately before but not as a bug around early September, as I wasn't sure during that time (suspected character specific). There's a slim chance they've fixed it but in case they haven't yet I'll make a new thread about it later.
     
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    • MW bonus to INT has been added.
    • Pure INT dumping has been removed (So a character can meet the 1st job min. requirement)

    V0.3 is now out!
     
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    MW only boosts a % of base INT, not total INT. So if you have 60 base INT but 200 total INT, MW9 (5%) should only add 3 INT to total INT, not 10.
     
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    Your right, I can see that's actually what they're saying in the thread I linked too. I'll fix it :)
     
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    Fixed. MW only boost base INT now.

    Revision 0.4 is out now.
     
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    More patches than MapleGlobal.
     
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    I couldn't view the excel document MapleF12
     
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    Not sure what problem you experienced, but I've changed to another google url shortcut, hopefully it works for you now :)
     
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    Yes, that did the trick. Thanks :thumbsup:
     
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    No update to the calculator itself.
    But I've made some HP wash recommendations for each class.
    I'm unsure of some of the meso costs, so feel free to chip in with your opinions people.

    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, you do not need to wash.
    But if you want to have 30.000 HP while using hyperbody (18.750 HP with no Hyperbody), then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet and a Silver deputy star at level 50.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 20 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 18.750 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~554.900 NX, and ~50.000.000 mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, you do not need to wash.
    But if you want to have 30.000 HP while using hyperbody (18.750 HP with no Hyperbody), then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet at level 50.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 20 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 18.750 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~573.500 NX, and ~30.000.000 mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, you do not need to wash.
    But if you want to have 30.000 HP while using hyperbody (18.750 HP with no Hyperbody), then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet and a Silver deputy star at level 50.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 20 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 18.750 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~573.500 NX, and ~50.000.000 mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet and scroll it to ~27 INT (average scrolling with 60% scrolls). Get a pair of scrolled earrings with ~5 INT. Get a scrolled cape with ~10 INT. Get a scrolled overall with ~14 INT. Get Silver deputy pendant. These items should be worn from the moment your able to. So I recommend prepairing and have proper fundings.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 130 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 7.700 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~1.054.000 NX, and ~XXX.XXX.XXX mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet and scroll it to ~27 INT (average scrolling with 60% scrolls). Get a pair of scrolled earrings with ~5 INT. Get a scrolled cape with ~10 INT. Get a scrolled overall with ~14 INT. Get Silver deputy pendant. These items should be worn from the moment your able to. So I recommend prepairing and have proper fundings.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 130 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 7.700 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~1.054.000 NX, and ~XXX.XXX.XXX mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet and scroll it to ~27 INT (average scrolling with 60% scrolls). Get a pair of scrolled earrings with ~5 INT. Get a scrolled cape with ~10 INT. Get a scrolled overall with ~14 INT. Get Silver deputy pendant. These items should be worn from the moment your able to. So I recommend prepairing and have proper fundings.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 130 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 7.700 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~1.054.000 NX, and ~XXX.XXX.XXX mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet and scroll it to ~27 INT (average scrolling with 60% scrolls). Get a pair of scrolled earrings with ~5 INT. Get a scrolled cape with ~10 INT. Get a scrolled overall with ~14 INT. Get Silver deputy pendant. These items should be worn from the moment your able to. So I recommend prepairing and have proper fundings.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 130 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 7.700 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~1.054.000 NX, and ~XXX.XXX.XXX mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, then I recommend you do the following. (You can however with astronomical funding and base INT reach 18.750 HP just like the warriors, but I do not recommend this path)
    Gear: None, you do not need to HP wash to be 1-hit Horntail ready.
    Base stat: Roll 4 INT and keep it that way.
    HP washing: There is no need to HP wash.
    Cost: No cost, since HP washing a Brawler is not recommended.
    [​IMG]
    In order to have 7.700 HP at level 155 and be 1-hit Horntail ready, then I recommend you do the following.
    Gear: Get a Zakum helmet and scroll it to ~27 INT (average scrolling with 60% scrolls). Get a pair of scrolled earrings with ~5 INT. Get a scrolled cape with ~10 INT. Get a scrolled overall with ~14 INT. Get Silver deputy pendant. These items should be worn from the moment your able to. So I recommend prepairing and have proper fundings.
    Base stat: Roll 13 INT with the dice or use AP resets to start at 13 INT. Then add INT every level till you reach 160 INT (but make sure to add enough main stat as required for the 1st job advancement). After reaching level 155, you can remove the INT again.
    HP washing: HP wash using level up ability points till you reach 7.700 HP at level ~155.
    Cost: This will cost you ~1.029.000 NX, and ~XXX.XXX.XXX mesos depending on the current market.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Made a bug thread about Brawlers, but also found out that Gunslingers might not be getting 20 HP using AP reset method. If there are any Gunslingers/Outlaws/Sairs out there can you please check?
     
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    Just did a check with my friends.

    Thief: Gains 16 HP strictly if you do AP Wash.
    And 16 - 20 HP if you do Level AP Wash.
    Similarly for Warriors:
    Gains 50 HP strictly if you do AP Wash.
    And 50 - 54 HP if you do Level AP Wash.

    From this 2 classes. I speculate that for all classes the Level AP Wash method is always better than the AP Wash method.
     
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    Yup I can confirm warriors gets more hp by doing fresh ap method.
     
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    This means that the data in this excel is correct (or mostly correct) only for MapleRoyals as I can confirm some classes do receive the expected amount from this calculator in that server (Warrior, Pirate, and Archer).

    But for MapleLegends, it has different values to what MapleRoyals currently offers for AP reset method, assuming that what jlimlim is saying is correct (which I do believe now).

    That also means that all classes should use the Fresh LVL up AP method, unless there's some updated info stating otherwise.
     
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    Just adding some information from washing my corsair. Looks like on this server we gain 16-20 hp using lvl up ap points on hp. Same as bm and nl. Not the 18-22 like the hp washing guide suggests. So using ap reset mp>hp works just fine because you get +18 hp -16mp. This was tested at lvl 70. So it doesn't matter whether you use lvl up ap reset or reset everything when you hit your lvl goal.
    As far as the calculator it says you gain +20hp from ap reset mp>hp, but that is incorrect. It is +18hp.
     
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    what you mean MP washing more worth it. that work for HP wash?
     

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