Accepted Revert the changes to critical throw

I hate playing my hermit now.

 

BLESS UP. WE BACK BOIS

 

HAHA took an SS just for memories

 

the buccaneers were forgotten again

 

Why wouldn't you guys try to buff base damage of assassin / hermit / night lord's skills and nerf the critical damage from critical throw?

Assuming you guys buff the base damage of skills, below are a few options you might consider:

1. Nerf critical rate, buff critical damage

This is what you guys exactly tried to implement, I think the general idea was pretty reasonable.
The thing you missed out was a lot weaker early game grinding potential that new players would have.
Also, it didn't really change SE-reliant environment that most NLs struggle.​

2. Leave critical rate as is (50%), nerf critical damage

In my opinion, this is the optimal balance change if it can be addressed with actual numbers.
Being able to KB some boss monsters with high critical damage (with high WA boost pots) may sound unfair to other ranged classes.
I know you guys have already nerfed alchemist because of this issue, but the skill still has great advantages over any other classes.​

3. SE-less damage should get slightly buffed if critical throw change is only thing gets reverted

I remember you buffed SE-less damage to compensate Alchemist nerf.
If Alchemist nerf remains unchanged, shouldn't SE-less damage be addressed after critical throw change gets reverted?
I'm not saying NLs shouldn't get any nerfs, but I'm just asking what you think about compensation regarding to the alchemist change.​

TLDR; Numbers should be experimented like you did in the earlier post.
I believe one of those suggestions should address not only early game grinding problem, but also late game SE-less dps you guys tried to balance out.

 

1. L7/TT to 190% and Critical Damage to 140%

SE:
[{(0.5 + 0.15) * (1.9 + 1.4 + 0.4)} + (0.35 * 1.9)]
= {(0.65 * 3.7) + 0.665}
= 3.07

Non-SE:
[{0.5 * (1.9 + 0.5)} + (0.5 * 1.9)]
= {(0.5 * 2.4) + 0.95}
= 2.15
​

2. L7/TT to 195% and Critical Damage to 130%

SE:
[{(0.5 + 0.15) * (1.95 + 1.4 + 0.3)} + (0.35 * 1.95)]
= {(0.65 * 3.65) + 0.6825}
= 3.055

Non-SE:
[{0.5 * (1.95 + 0.5)} + (0.5 * 1.95)]
= {(0.5 * 2.45) + 0.975}
= 2.2​

I think either #1 or #2 should be acceptable.

 

I don't understand this obsession everyone has with trying to buff the class. They. Don't. Need. A. Buff.
Just leave them the way they are, Jesus Christ.

 

Give corsair ships a speed buff PLEASE And maybe let the ship hp fully heal after 90s of not mounting, so I dont need to relog just to get it back up.

 

Pls help the sairs ship speed is really bad. I need to dismount to reposition in time before getting smacked off platforms in zak

 

To be honest, I kinda agree. Regardless of however it is, SE damage is still really OP for an NL and its kinda how its always been since the nostalgia days.
And NLs are kinda at a good spot right now that they don't need anymore buffs.
I understand the nerf for Alchemist (although I personally (probably bias-edly) disagree with any NL nerf xD) but I don't think they need any more buffs.

 

you can dismount and use recoil shot if you are on >>>>> side.

Or, you can jump forward shoot if you are on <<<<< side.

 

A special team is formed to balance the game, and this almost happens instead of making job classes more important to eachother instead.

 

Revert Alchemist as well, otherwise this is not a "trade off" but pure NERF to Night Lords while BUFFING the rest of the classes.

Night Lord is a very limited class that is good only at one thing, Bossing. The limitations of this class are already insane, please do not nerf us any further...

 

why did the night lord skills have to be tweaked in the first place? Most of us came back to play the old maple and expect it to be like the old one. I myself came to maplelegends to enjoy the night lord gameplay as it was back then, meaning it was perfect as it was before. How could you expect a positive outcome when you try to change something that was already in a good position? As I speculate many night lord players will agree, please just bring it back to its old state and leave it as is including the alchemist skill. It doesn't need any buffs nor nerfs.

Sorry for the rant, but grinding these few weeks was just frustrating, and bossing with a reduced duration on consumables than before felt cheated and disappointing as well. Considering that night lords are good at ONLY one thing as spoken above, I think it's fair for night lords to have Alchemist as it was before.