What's the consensus on expedition boss signup 'snatching'?

S>Zak track have ign

 

Talking very generally about all of this -

Even when people play dumb, everyone understands basic courtesy, like what the "good" and wholesome thing to do is in most situations, right? It's just common sense. But competition for popular grinding/leeching maps and bossing/PQ tracks is inevitable with a player base that's like over 4x what it was before corona.

There's always 2 sides to the story. Sometimes, a group might wait for a while before they land an open track (we waited ~20 minutes for a CWK track the other day, a first for me), and sometimes a group who's gearing up to run might afk a bit too long and lose their channel. There has to be hard lines otherwise it's just gray areas and chaos, that's why mapowner and expedition leader exist. People need to respect the rule even when it's not in their favor. I say this hypocritically, as someone who's gone off on a random dude who sniped my skele map once because I was seconds late - I was salty, but I should've just accepted I lost the map right from the get. It's not always easy, especially when the other party says something abrasive.

But if you fail to keep your map/boss track and it gets sniped, you played yourself. It sucks, and of course from one perspective it's mad inconsiderate of the other person/group, but people are just trying to play the game same as you. If you don't keep an eye on the timer or you don't click fast enough, you just need to eat that loss.

Mapowner and expedition leader "win," for lack of more elegant phrasing. It's really up to people's own discretion whether or not they want to be savage or kind. But I think more often than not people won't try to take your PQ/boss track if your group is obviously occupying that channel. That's a king-sized dick move, but also whoever misses out on the map/track should just move on. Don't complain over smega, nobody wants to see that shit.

Now, responding to the original post -

What y'all did, sniping a channel in front of people who are literally waiting to run there. That's a huuuuge dick move, plain and simple lol. Y'all technically aren't in the wrong sure, but cmon that's trash and it shouldn't be tough to acknowledge that. I hope people can generally be good to one another, but if they choose not to be, like take your L with grace too.

 

only if you make a meme video about this argument.

 

They don't own it, period.
Couldn't care less, if they are too slow to restart the timer, thats their problem.
Making other groups wait because one of their players is late shouldn't be of any concern to you.

 

Completing agree with Blu301 here, not wrong but a complete dick move. If you can, make an apology in game personally. It makes a world of difference on the receiving end.

 

Its first come first served in this S>leech B>leech world.

Manners have no place in mushroomgame.

Shoulda bought the map from them with your NL funds you got from making your bishop.

 

Perhaps a third option for those who are conflicted on either option?

Starting sign ups is already a way of ‘owning’ that channel. I guess it’s kind of similar to spam clicking to get into LPQ?

But going into a channel where a party is already waiting and try to take the channel as soon as the timer is up is a dick move. The difference between this and LPQ is that it is accepted that fastest fingers is the rule in LPQ but not for expeditions since it takes a whole lot more time to organize a party and find buyers etc and no one wants their channel to be ‘sniped.’

Like Tim said, not wrong but definitely a dick move.

 

New vid title: "When Liny finessed a Zakum run"

 

i think the root of the issue is how we only opened up 2 more channels when the user-count went up 400%. We used to have 6 channels for 500 players online and now it's 8 channels for 2,000 players online??

I see so much drama with map selling, map stealing, map holding, PQ track drama, and now boss ch stealing.

If you're worried about the player count slightly decreasing after Covid is over, you can close channels later again as necessary??

 

Remember that GMS had way more headcount in players, yet they only had two channels open for expedition bosses.

 

So GMS also didnt have free NX, should we follow GMS then? Not everything GMS did was ideal, and if there's a need, we should change accordingly to make ML more pleasant to play. IMO, this is a poor argument made... Perhaps you are fine waiting 30 minutes to an hour to find a channel for a boss run. I certainly do not, and will be frustrated from both parties POV, regardless of who is right and wrong.