Some extraneous tip about Lure abusing bosses

There needs to be clearer instructions on this. Even a message like "Do not aggro abuse" is to totally unclear. What is aggro abuse exactly.

A new player have no idea what is such terms, and this is a bannable offense. To them this just seems like a trick that makes their game easier, like enter/exit cashshop to tele to top/bottom of map.

 

or maybe they can fix it so you cant aggro abuse. but of course they cant be bothered to code it

 

lol they should let me dev

alishar lure fixed and bigger nips guaranteed 100%

 

They've tried and it didn't work, I'm too lazy to link the original thread where they mentioned that but it's not negligence, simply too problematic to just erase a part of the map... That doesn't really happen.

Edit:
Ok I'm not that lazy here is the explanation:

(For clarification, not just alone, parties can be aggro abusing as well if they're all there)
Sources: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/nibergen.23244/#post-171897 (bottom)
https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/aggros-abuse.24554/ (fishy linked a video explaining it down the line)

 

This has been an issue in the past, multiple times. And multiple people have repeatedly gotten banned for it without knowing.

One may argue that not knowing the rules is no excuse for abusing it, and so they should still be banned for it even though they were unaware. That is a fair point, and I would agree. However, in this case, people were being accused under OLD ToS language which staff admitted was unclear. They then cleared up the aggro abuse language in the ToS after the fact. However, the staff are not erasing any ban strikes for people who were accused of aggro abusing even before the ToS was updated.

It's like if you were a store owner selling alcohol to 21 year olds and then the federal law changes the minimum drinking age to 24 and then you get arrested for having sold alcohol to people age 21 before the law was updated.

A few of us made threads regarding this in the past, and the GM's ended up locking the thread. I strongly beg the staff to again reconsider erasing old ban strikes for people who were accused under old and unclear rules. Please, it's not too late, even a year afterwards. As you can see, newer players are still being confused about this and it's a recurring issue even now.

Old thread for reference: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/aggros-abuse.24554/

 

I don't understand this argument. Why does it matter how Neckson wanted the game to be played?

The staff have thoughtfully deliberated what should and shouldn't be allowed, they didn't just copy-paste rules from the original game. They also update the ToS frequently to solve issues as they come up. I don't see how HP washing or Neckson has anything to do with the design of ML's ToS.

I also can't sympathize with your argument that the ignorance of the server's rules is a defense for breaking them. When you click accept, you're acknowledging what the rules are and what the punishments are for breaking them. If we stray away from that concept then it's a very very slippery slope.

I get that in general, not everyone reads ToS agreements, but this isn't the ToS for Microsoft Office or whatever. Reading the ToS for a private game like this is in your best interest, not for avoiding game bans, but for your personal safety.

 

2.11 Boss Freeze Abuse - Any form of abuse that intentionally causes monsters in boss maps to stop using abilities or attacking is forbidden. This includes, but not limited to: positioning a character in a certain area of the map or using the death of a character to purposefully cause the boss or other surrounding mobs to freeze and/or no longer seek to attack an active player. Examples would include: Elder Wraiths in Big Foot maps being frozen; Nibergen not attacking (damage being done by clouds only); or Alishar not using any magic attacks. 1st Offense: 7 day ban; 2nd Offense: Account Ban

It's already clarified on our Terms of Service.

 

Honestly even with the wording in ToS there are a lot of unwritten exceptions to this rule too. Attacking HH in Forgotten Path from an elevated platform (so you're out of its reach) is apparently not aggro abuse because HH is still seeking to attack you (despite the only mechanical difference between sniping HH and attacking Nibergen from bottom right is that HH can move while Nibergen cannot); using Puppet out of a boss's reach to freeze it is not aggro abuse (you can do this to Vergamot and Nibergen and they'd just be frozen except casting Cancels and summons in Nibergen's case), and back before HT arms were changed to hit the whole screen, having the highest arm damage attacker standing on the other side so one arm will not move also does not count unless all other HT parts are dead, in which case it suddenly counts again. There are a lot of caveats to this rule that it's basically something you just have to know (or ask people about so you can know), even with it written in the ToS.

 

Like here, what is a certain area of the map. I understand this area is not announced, so people who don't know about "this area" won't do it. But why is positioning yourself out of the range attack of a monster consider aggro abuse. Is it just because it is a boss, so you can't exploit the "out range" mechanism? It is honestly exploiting bugs or poor codings.

Just hope that GMs will exercise more discretion together with warnings, and clarification when identifying/banning with aggro abuse. Such as warnings, and how many repeated warnings before banning.