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OPQ Buffs to compete with GS

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by NecksonBad, Nov 12, 2020.

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  1. NecksonBad
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    NecksonBad Slime

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    Suggestion: Buff OPQ (or low population PQs in general), so that more players will be willing to do them

    The rewards for completing Orbis PQ is underwhelming. It includes NPC-able capes, Feather of Goddesses (which trades for a glove that 99% of players will never use), meager NX vote cash, ores, and pots.

    The exp from it is decent, however, it is not enough to justify doing OPQ over mobbing/farming at GS (which rewards good exp, drops, and mesos) or receiving leech. During events, especially, rarely anyone would party up for OPQ, since mobs also drop event items and it's better to farm or solo quest in many cases.

    Can we get some OPQ buffs or general PQ buffs to complete with mobbing? It takes hours and hours to find a few players to do some PQs with (e.g. OPQ, LMPQ, HPQ, and PPQ). KPQ and LPQ seems to be the only PQs that people even bother to do at lower levels. If quests provide x3 exp, can party quest get a buff as well, so more are able to find groups and make friends, just like BBB maplestory?

    Methods of buffing PQ could include:
    -Extra exp per pq (maybe a 1.25x multiplier to current base)
    -Better rewards (drops, items). Boss and/or mobs in PQs should have a small chance of dropping gachapon tickets. The boxes at the bonus stages of LPQ and OPQ should have a small chance of drop gachapon tickets.
    -PQ rankings, just like fame and quest rankings. Rankings could include fastest PQ records, most PQs completed, etc. Speedrunning in PQ - World record anyone?

    I don't know how viable PQ buffs could be but it could definitely tighten up the community for group activities instead of autopilot farming like current MS.
     
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    keen for rankings. im all in for competitive play
     
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    These are the main reasons I did/do not participate that much into PQs:

    1. They do not drop gachapon or event drops.
    2. It takes too long to put a party together.
    3. It requires too much to get through each stage without a significant return.
    4. The level ranges are very tight and specific so I quickly out-level the PQ while collecting event items, or doing other quests.
     
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    +1 for ranking
     
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    +1 for ranking. Hopefully the npc can display it also as an option.
     
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    Even if its just ranking via the website.
     
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    iccqqq Dark Stone Golem

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    PQs should always be the best and most rewarding method to gain EXP
     
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    I agree with the ranking idea, I just want to point out w.r.t. this suggestion:
    This hypothetical extra chunk of EXP should be awarded for completing the final stage (not including the bonus stage), rather than being a bump to the EXP of each stage (although a modest bump to the other stages is probably fine). I'm sure that this is what you had in mind anyways, but I just want to clarify this because it's important to mostly reward completions, rather than make "rushing" a viable option ("rushing" as in, repeating the same few stages, or even just the first stage, repeatedly, without ever completing the entire PQ).

    I also want to expand on this remark:
    by saying that presumably, the justification here is that PQs are the most social (or perhaps, the "least asocial") method of gaining EXP (and indeed, of playing the game in general). It obviously requires teaming up, and furthermore actually requires cooperation/teamwork, requires players to teach other players to help them out, and so on. Leeching and solo grinding (and even party grinding(!), although to a lesser extent), needless to say, are considerably less social, which is perhaps surprising for a game that we consider to be an "MMORPG".

    I also want to plug... I mean, cross-reference, my similar suggestion thread for improving another rather similar PQ (that currently covers the 71~85 level range, thus not overlapping with OPQ at all): https://forum.maplelegends.com/inde...ure-you’ve-probably-never-heard-of-it….34976/
     
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    leech>grind>pq:cross:
    pq>grind>leech:tick:
     
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    Unpopular party-quests such as opq, lmpq and rnjpq are usually not worth people's time, mostly because alternative training spots are far better in terms of exp/meso.
    This makes it so people seeking to experience these nostalgic party quests end up struggling to find members.
    PQs usually take a lot more effort than grinding, so It doesn't seem like it would hurt the server if the unpopular ones were to become slightly more rewarding.
     
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    Or just slightly rewarding in general to encourage party play.
     
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    The issue with party quests these days is they became obsolete with all the new areas and mobs to grind on that give better exp (even in maps that aren't popular) in the same amount of time it takes to complete the party quest.

    When orbis was first released the PQ was a very nice option for those that wanted something different after grinding or doing quests since level 31 up to 51, the next PQ relased was ludi, and that was wonderful for anyone level 35 up to 50, it made the trip through second to third job much more tolerable for many players since you could pretty much PQ the whole way (with a short gap at 31-35 but the many quests available fixed that).

    There was also ludi maze PQ which, when players learned how to navigate the rooms and only got tickets from certain rooms people would just rush from 51-70 much faster than orbis PQ.

    Magatia PQ i think was added later, but by then it was only popular to those that were interested in PQing still, as maplestory grew and added more training options for all, the PQs just kind of stagnated and fell out of use, since you really do have better options of training for more exp in the same amount of time it would take to complete a PQ with less effort, and you don't require a group to do that either.
     
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    OPQ is actually a really good leveling spot for people washing, as the combat is minimal and Papa Pixie is a pushover.

    I'm in favor of an EXP buff if it provides a viable alternative to leeching AND indirectly helps new players by bolstering the PQ population.

    I REALLY like the idea of a PQ ranking too, hopefully it's retroactive :D
     
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    I completely agree with this suggestion! I think that a major point of doing PQs is getting rewards that are usable for players. For example: KPQ = slime shoes, LPQ = glasses, EPQ = earrings. A lot of players utilize these PQs for those specific reasons.

    With the climate that work gloves are at, a glove that provides a base stat of 1 att with 60% scrolls only a few thousand mesos and a 8 att wg for 4-5m, it doesn't seem like much of an incentive; especially if it's untradable. I think a fix for OPQ would be a MINOR exp boost, while providing a better rewards for completing the PQs. In its current state, there is little to no incentive to participate in OPQ other than the social aspect.

    Edit: typo in second paragraph
     
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    inb4 CPQ because let's be real it allows you to farm mesos, its fun, it provides competitiveness and also allows a breeze to lvl 50 and let's be honest so many people just don't remember how to do some pqs they're old as hell alongside with leech being so easy to come by. Sidenote, MPQ did allow me to make mesos as I was lucky to obtain 60%int/DEX scrolls all along from lvl 71-86 as well as me being a COVID player so many people were the same lvl as I was doing what I was doing and leech used to be much more expensive.
     
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    Perhaps a more constructive way of buffing these PQs would be to measure what the current eph and meso/hr is and try to scale it to be slightly above soloing gs2/5. I think a level 50 cleric spamming heal gets like 1-1.5m eph and 1-2m meso per hour (someone can provide better numbers). Also the rate of gacha at gs is extremely high, so need to account for that too.

    The reason EPQ is quite popular is because it's eph is decent (around 600k eph i think), which is equivalent to grinding at the meta spots.
     
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    Yeah I think it would be nice to bring the glove in line power wise with the glasses, epq earrings, and slime shoes.

    I think giving them +1 all stat and +2 wa/ma could make them worth scrolling and then maybe add glove wa/ma 60 into the reward pool
     
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    I'd be careful with ruining the gfa60 market even further. The last few events has dropped the value over 50%. Especially since gfa60 quests are some of the easiest ways for new players to make money.
     
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    my current estimates put blue gach at 660k, silver at 2.1m
     
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    Why OPQ needs a buff, in 0 simple words
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