Keeping things strictly "nostalgic"

inb4. QUEST RING (make ellin ring upgrade).

 

I think ML started to have its originality from v62, from 2k17 or somewhat around that period.
You don't know how i was surprised for watching they decided to balance stuffs, and 1/2 boat ride time, and so many stuffs which is treated as "sure stuffs" for nowadays, after I came back from 2+ years break.
So there's no point to tell "ML should be same with GMS" anymore. ML is ML, and have its originality which isn't same with any other servers/pservers.

Obviously, PB is doable. personally, I didn't expect PB will be killed soon like this. thought it'll be next year, or, even more than 2 yrs, not only 15 days. I do know preparing character for PB is hard journey but see, it's only 21 days from PBs release. staff team would need actual data from live server, to make stuffs better, of course. (and they're working on it now, obviously. just see recent patch notes related with PB).

If you don't want to play in MLs rule and way, there's always another options. Sadly, I'm almost (not every, but almost) agree on how it's going.

as always, there's no option to satisfy 100% members. some may prefer authentic, some may prefer neo. I'm side of former.

added : for me, nostalgia is, KMS beta, which only has vic and 2nd jobs. (and that octagon UIs) but I don't ask ML to be my nostalgia.

 

To be fair to the server, it already released a few HP options for people. Before PB was released, the only boss where you truly cannot do without HP washing is toad and Vergamot (though technically you can just crouch every Vergamot attack), though people will continue to wash, make mages first and leech their 999 INT NLs anyways just because more HP is always helpful, and that line of thought will continue to work for PB; we just currently need some more HP available for that to remain true (about ~1.5k if counting only permanent sources - events can help bridge the gap too, but they're fickle about how much HP you can get and relying on them will basically tie you in the game forever as you're SoL if you ever decide to take a break through one)

 

301st post about HP washing and people still expecting something major to be changed

 

Is there really a point in giving constructive criticism when there have been numerous threads similar to this that have preceeded yours? Many players have already shared their thoughts about this, it's mostly the same thing being echoed again, but for different content.

You must be a special type of naive or ignorant to be in the server this long and expect major and radical changes to come through and change the washing system. You should know by this point that the staff mostly comes up with solution that alleviates hp washing, and not change the system.

Maybe if you actually spent time reading past threads instead of my post history, you'll know why nothing major has been changed (with the exception of HP rings/pet equip)

 

I definitely appreciate the HP alternatives that the staff have brought forward however some of them require sacrificing other stats that could potentially go into damage which will still over-all make you a weaker character if you utilize them. So although they may be able to survive heavy hits, they are weaker than a washed counterpart in over-all power. I am participating in the washing of the server because it seems necessary if I want to be a character that people want to boss with and that can "hold my own" but I don't necessarily think that the current state is the best way. There have been many suggestions presented by the community that could provide end-game HP increases without having to sacrifice stat upgrades of your gear to be able to survive. I would like to see if MapleLegends would utilize other methods instead.

Edit: I agree with OP's perspective that if you want to encourage new users to come in the current washing required (despite the claim that it is optional) is a heavy deterrent from playing the game and results in early character deletion, people getting overwhelmed (especially by the main discord), and early quitting of the game.

 

ML needs people to vote to stay in the rank on GTOP, just like how Neoxn need the money income.

If you want to get ridded of washing, you need to create some way for people to vote so religiously on something else.
It will be back to the vote for gachapon way.

There has to be more than just gaming decision at some point.

 

Yes I agree we need the voting. I just wish there were alternatives to reach a goal to have a viable character other than being recommended to come back in 1-2 years. it doesn't come off inviting

 

Totally. As welcoming as the community can be, I just can't get my friends to join me playing this game and they were all hardcore maplers back in the mapleSEA days. I just can't tell my friends that they need to vote for 6 months (decent washing, not hardcore), before you can play your non warrior class and even warriors need to wash a bit.

As much as you advertise washing as optional. The amount of INT lord, INT archer you meet in the game makes a "normal" character seems the wrong way to go.

 

I see a lot of hp washing treads and complaints and even more suggestions for improvements, and all that for the purpose of end game bossing.
and I always think why is HP the only solution?

I have been told and kinda witnessed in my experience the utter disregard for the DEF stat because "it is useless on high levels",
so maybe a solution is to keep HP washing as is but make DEF a more meaningful stat ?

i hope someone can enlighten me on why it is a bad idea because i do not see any downsides to it.

maybe it is not possible on a code lvl but i think that if you make it that a char at lvl 180 with the best gear can survive hit ko tnx
to some hardcore def gear it will be a good solution, instead of saying "you need to hp wash for bossing" you will say "you need hp wash for bossing OR godly gear"
and you cant say that godly gear is to much of an effort for end gear characters.
i believe that at the end of the day you need to put a lot of effort for the end of the end game (like PB) otherwise it is not an achievement.

 

why not make a buff that grants 1000 w.def. and m.def when u enter PB, last for the max duration during PB, BUT when you die and get ressed, you wont be able to have this buff.

probably u need a T10 ring, getting those HP pet scrolls, a nice BFC, and those buffs to survive a PB attack.

*what if i die?! i wont be able to survive the next round i get ressed!!*
well u were given the option to survive PB. maybe u lagged or something, or maybe u were not self-aware enough, thats too bad.

*but those INT lords are able to survive when they get ressed, why am i not entitled the same?*
well, then lets ban the entire res thing, or
u can have an npc inside that buffs you with the 1000w.def and m.def, but will skill lock you for 1-5 minutes, undispellable, rendering you having a forced down time.

 

There will always be a BUT, but why do i need to spend nx and they get or but why do i have to spend meso and get lucky with scrolls and they don't.
but i am genuinely curious why not buff def?
i mean we have gear which most ppl do not use since all it does is improve def, by making def a viable solution we will make the high-level gear more appealing,
and that will make all the luckless dexless and other some-stat-less characters excel at dmg but normal characters will excel at survivability and will be able to skip washing.
it will boost the economy since ppl will be selling more variants of high lvl gear and it will reduce the need for washing.