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In retrospect SI nerf was a buff to leechers

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Shivering, Dec 31, 2020.

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    I mean looking back at these changes now, SI almost had no impact on leechers whatsoever.

    At petris: EPH went down 1-2m.

    At skeles: Blu found a way to do a rotation that has literally the exact same EPH while not needing to level an SI mule to 126.

    At 5-6F: Leechers found a way to get way higher EPH than ever before by syncing rotations, pushing EPH from 35-45m to 40-52m after the SI nerf due to not having to manage so many clients.

    Honestly SI nerf to not work on mages was a massive buff to gameplay experience tbh. No need to feel like you need to level a character to 126 for an SI buff.
     
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    It also pushed mages like ORADIOUS to white the bean! Who needs Buccaneers when your solo target damage gets buffed instead?
     
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    Though if you could have a micro managing god, with a synched rotation + SI, wouldn't the EPM gone even higher? Also, I do have to double check again, but I've heard some people tell me that the # of mobs for shaolin and petri have increased over the past few patches... at least compared to like a year ago
     
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    No way for me to find out if the # of mobs has actually increased, but would love if you would be able to confirm it.

    I think the biggest issue with having SI mules at 5-6 was how intensive it was for leechers; you had to actively kick and add HS and SI to party if you wanted to sell trio which was the go-to at the time and then also move then between your 2 mages as well. This is in addition to keeping buffs up on 2 mages and repositioning as necessary. You also have to keep in mind that if you're using the /partyinvite command it would break your macro cast. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason why EPH numbers were so much lower and it had nothing to do with # of mobs, but again would love if you could somehow look up that data.
     
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    when i tried out 5-6 for an hour or two epm seemed to go back to 2018 levels for solo mage. petris still hella buffed tho xd
    edit: i assume skele too
     
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    I’m not sure if petri exp has changed. I found this thread I made a few years back and it looks like with 10% event bonus EPH for a 14x was 29m which would be 26m without bonus.

    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/1-hit-petri-and-other-leech.21538/

    This was split and without SI. I think that is similar to what current EPH rates are, based on my experience selling petris when 5-6 was broken during summer event, if you account for ~10% reduction when selling trio.
     
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    Mage exp is a constant so you can compare how well you do no matter the level of your leechers x). Currently petri exp is very comparable to dukus
     
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    Isn’t that because dukus got a massive nerf? Do you know what the petri EPH # is for your mage?
     
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    Only the first Duku map got a nerf though (the one where all the 2 hitting or 3 hitting bishops were at). The other Duku maps got buffed multiple times
     
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