1. Hello!

    First of all, welcome to MapleLegends! You are currently viewing the forums as a guest, so you can only view the first post of every topic. We highly recommend registering so you can be part of our community.

    By registering to our forums you can introduce yourself and make your first friends, talk in the shoutbox, contribute, and much more!

    This process only takes a few minutes and you can always decide to lurk even after!

    - MapleLegends Administration-
  2. Experiencing disconnecting after inserting your login info? Make sure you are on the latest MapleLegends version. The current latest version is found by clicking here.
    Dismiss Notice

How I gained ~3K hp at lvl 195 without losing (much) damage

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by kalash, Nov 26, 2020.

  1. kalash
    Offline

    kalash Headless Horseman

    831
    233
    376
    Oct 18, 2016
    Male
    6:26 AM
    Kalash
    Night Lord
    200
    Halcyon
    Hi there!

    I typed out this post before and it went poof, so here's the abridged version:

    You got too little hp at a high lvl? Here's your solution.



    For the people that couldn't watch a (perfectly edited) 1 minute video:
    1. Save a lot of fresh (level up) AP
    2. Reset a lot of base stats into int (pref right before you level up)
    3. Use the saved up AP to MP wash
    4. Wash all excess MP into HP. Leave 1 reset in MP.
    5. Wash the last MP into base stat
    6. Wash all your int back into base stat.

    Stats:
    3.3m NX used
    44 fresh AP (9 levels worth) used
    ~3k HP gained -> this is also from leveling with int gear for those 9 levels

    Cheers and enjoy an hour of clicking!

    PS.
    The CHP/MHP (current vs max) is like that because I'm wearing pet equips from dried out pets. The HP registers for current HP but it doesn't for max HP. It's just a visual bug.

    PPS.
    I had some base int left because I miscalculated my mp to hp washes. That was washed out easily with a few more votes, though :)
     
    • Great Work Great Work x 15
    • Like Like x 3
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  2. Tate
    Offline

    Tate Capt. Latanica

    352
    229
    278
    Apr 16, 2020
    New Zealand
    6:26 PM
    Potayto
    Shadower
    175
    Beaters
    This is what i'll be doing at 179 and leveling to 180. MP washing, and using stale ap gains.

    For those curious about my math (note i didnt factor levelup hp/mp nor mp gains from int equips to be conservative)

    Shadower.
    Moving Luk to INT 416 AP Resets
    Removing INT 672 AP Resets
    Mp washing 135 Fresh AP to work with
    Extra MP Per MP Wash 77
    Deducted MP from taking out AP from MP Washing 1620
    Total Extra MP 10395
    Min MP @ 180 2668
    Estimated extra MP @ 180 after MP Washing 11443
    Min HP @ 180 3978
    # of possible washes 866
    Stale HP gain 13856
    Estimated clean HP after all is done 19,381

    Total Resets needed 1223
    Total NX needed 3791300
    Total vote days (assume 6000 per day) 631.8833333 = 1 year and 7 months.

    The good news is that 1 year has passed. so i only need 7 more months. The bad news is that MP Washing only works with Fresh AP. so if you dont have any saved up.. you cant do much else..

    It's also a lifesaver at the cost of an extreme amount of time invested. but hey,
    GranbergGranberg said:
    There is only one way to play Maplestory, and that is to go balls deep 100% of the time.

    So while i'm doing this, might as well get throated.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  3. iPippy
    Offline

    iPippy Nightshadow

    655
    340
    345
    May 19, 2019
    Male
    1:26 AM
    iPippy
    At a certain point you have to weigh cost of using that nx to remake the char entirely. Utility of such varies from person to person, though, so cant really be quantified.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Funny Funny x 2
  4. Tate
    Offline

    Tate Capt. Latanica

    352
    229
    278
    Apr 16, 2020
    New Zealand
    6:26 PM
    Potayto
    Shadower
    175
    Beaters
    I wholeheartedly agree with you on this pippy, but imho, f*ck having to play through 2nd job bandit again. :vomit:
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  5. OP
    OP
    kalash
    Offline

    kalash Headless Horseman

    831
    233
    376
    Oct 18, 2016
    Male
    6:26 AM
    Kalash
    Night Lord
    200
    Halcyon
    Yeah I don't feel like lvling another NL to 195. This one took me like 4,5 years already xD
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  6. Soblet
    Offline

    Soblet Zakum

    1,359
    1,346
    491
    Sep 14, 2015
    6:26 AM
    Soblet
    Bandit
    200
    Pasta
    You're going to have 790 base int while doing this?
     
  7. Tate
    Offline

    Tate Capt. Latanica

    352
    229
    278
    Apr 16, 2020
    New Zealand
    6:26 PM
    Potayto
    Shadower
    175
    Beaters
    no i'll have 676 base int + equips when i level once for 179->180.

    Then at 180, i'll have saved 135 fresh ap which i'll use to mp wash with.

    right now till 180 I'm 165 and leveling with 290 base int + equips but i didn't include the extra mp nor natural hp/mp gains coming from these 15 levels into my calculations. so i very well may be overshooting it. better than undershooting though.
     
  8. Soblet
    Offline

    Soblet Zakum

    1,359
    1,346
    491
    Sep 14, 2015
    6:26 AM
    Soblet
    Bandit
    200
    Pasta
    676 base int will net you 65 mp per wash if I'm not mistaken.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  9. Tate
    Offline

    Tate Capt. Latanica

    352
    229
    278
    Apr 16, 2020
    New Zealand
    6:26 PM
    Potayto
    Shadower
    175
    Beaters
    yes on mine its 77 because the -12 deduction happens later under Deducted MP from taking out AP from MP Washing = 1620

    It's to stop me from getting confused regarding the amount of AP Resets. haha
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Bfitchef
    Offline

    Bfitchef Mushmom

    58
    11
    65
    Jun 5, 2018
    Male
    1:26 AM
    CreatureNL
    Night Lord
    194
    Nani
    Kalash 3.3m nx used to purchase all resets or were some from event?
     
  11. OP
    OP
    kalash
    Offline

    kalash Headless Horseman

    831
    233
    376
    Oct 18, 2016
    Male
    6:26 AM
    Kalash
    Night Lord
    200
    Halcyon
    I just used vote nx, no event resets. In the end I got stuck with some base int because I didn’t consider my mp into hp washes, but that was easily washed out later after a few extra votes. If you do this, and want to end up with 4 int right away, be sure to include those washes too
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. d3lm
    Offline

    d3lm Selkie Jr.

    200
    84
    210
    May 11, 2020
    Male
    12:26 PM
    11
    hey awesome trick! question, one thing I still don't get is why did u leave one point in mp and resetting it back into base stat last? (point number 4 and 5)
     
  13. Gurk
    Offline

    Gurk Nightshadow

    677
    447
    350
    Mar 9, 2020
    Male
    10:26 PM
    Gxrk
    Hero, Bishop, Marksman, Shadower, Buccaneer, Corsair
    You need to have at least 1 point in the hp/mp pool in order to stale wash, i.e. reset from mp to hp.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. Huiae
    Offline

    Huiae Headless Horseman

    890
    865
    386
    Aug 1, 2015
    Female
    Seoul, Korea
    2:26 PM
    Verdict
    Bishop
    WeenieHutJrs
    This trick isn't nx-wise at all for gaining HP/nx ratio, but can be last lifesaver for your character in late-stage, which were together, laughted, cried, suffered, and eventually accomplished lots of awesomes with you, in long journey of ML.

    Great guide. And rip for your nx.

    To who is planning this method in future - Fresh AP is precious. Much more than you think. Be sure for that.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. d3lm
    Offline

    d3lm Selkie Jr.

    200
    84
    210
    May 11, 2020
    Male
    12:26 PM
    11
    So based on that can I do the step like this on my bucc? (having increase max hp skill)
    1. Save 100 fresh ap (65:35 mp:hp)
    2. Reset a lot of str stats into int
    3. Use the saved up AP to MP wash 65 times and to HP 35 times
    4. Wash all excess MP into HP without leaving 1 reset in MP
    5. Wash all int back into str stat
    Reason I do point 4 is cuz I'll also be doing stale wash as it'd still hit my HP goal and not taking any longer waiting for the nx
     
  16. Huiae
    Offline

    Huiae Headless Horseman

    890
    865
    386
    Aug 1, 2015
    Female
    Seoul, Korea
    2:26 PM
    Verdict
    Bishop
    WeenieHutJrs
    For bucc, stuff goes a bit weird cuz of HP passive skill.
    If you put fresh AP into HP your HP will rise applied with passive but in direct conversioning from MP into HP, NO.

    So how much int you reset from str in initial stage, determines how much HP you'll get eventually per every fresh APs. (Remember, MP is also can be treated as potential HP).

    So yes, if you want to get passive bonus on HP also but lacking on excessive MP, you should distribute your fresh AP into both HP and MP. Just make sure to check that 65 times of MP washing provides enough excessive MP for ordinary 35 times of washing HP, since your plan is, mix of ordinary HP washing and getting excessive MP for that, in technique of OPs guide.

    Edit : on step 4, you should wash your MP into str, not to HP, to avoid lose in main stat. You made mistake on plan.

    In short, with pumping 65 times of MP, you should get 'at least' 100 * 16, 1600 excessive MP (= 100 times of turning back into STR) in the end, not to lose your main stat. Ofc, the more, the better, more expensive. Calc carefully how much ints you should get to hit that amount. I'm lazy to calc yours precisely.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  17. Kmac
    Offline

    Kmac King Slime

    27
    26
    36
    Jan 15, 2021
    Male
    1:26 AM
    DPSmoira
    Beginner
    Ah, does fresh AP give more MP for MP wash?
     
  18. Soblet
    Offline

    Soblet Zakum

    1,359
    1,346
    491
    Sep 14, 2015
    6:26 AM
    Soblet
    Bandit
    200
    Pasta
    You can only mp wash with fresh AP, if you do it with stale you just lose mp.
     
  19. d3lm
    Offline

    d3lm Selkie Jr.

    200
    84
    210
    May 11, 2020
    Male
    12:26 PM
    11
    ah thanks for pointing the calc out. I didn't wanna point the calc but since u mentioned it yes I have calculated the amount of INT I gotta have, total mp gain, total hp gain, etcetc I can do. Could you pls correct me? Lemme rephrase the step:

    1. Saving 100 fresh AP (65:35 MP:HP)
    2. Resetting 400 STR into INT (I already have 80 base so I'll have 480 base INT)
    3. MP gain=
    a. Putting 65 fresh AP into INT (46 MP per fresh AP, 2990 total MP)
    b. 480 base+122 gear+MW20 buff = 65 MP
    c. Total MP gain = 2990+65 = 3055 (cba to postpone lvling up before having the INT so I wont calculate point b)​
    4. Washes available (since I'm a pirate) = ((2990)/16) = 186-16 = 170 times (subtract 16 from 186 since I still have 16 points inside HP, will take the points from MP to STR before MP washing)
    5. HP gain=
    a. Putting 35 fresh AP into HP (38 HP per fresh AP, 1330 total fresh HP)
    b. Stale HP = 170-35 = 135 times (18 HP fresh stale AP, 2430 total stale HP)
    c. Total HP gain = 3760 HP​
    6. Resetting 477 INT back to STR
    7. Done...(?) or do I still have to leave one point in MP before doing step 6?
     
  20. OP
    OP
    kalash
    Offline

    kalash Headless Horseman

    831
    233
    376
    Oct 18, 2016
    Male
    6:26 AM
    Kalash
    Night Lord
    200
    Halcyon
    I'm loving the discussion my thread has brought. I hope it's helping y'all achieve your goals!

    To answer d3lm's question:
    You can wash out all your mp after you're done washing the stale hp. As long as there is 1 ap in the hp/mp pool you can do the washing (you have to be able to subtract something to add it somewhere else). After that, do with your AP what you will. You can wash out the int right after adding the mp with fresh ap (so after step 3); that's the only purpose your int will have.

    One suggestion if you're not max level, however: keep some mp ready to be washed out (dont stale wash some of it). Since you're a non-200 bucc (or warrior for that matter), you could use your future fresh level-up ap into hp and wash it out of the saved mp. This only applies if you don't need the hp right now, though.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1

Share This Page