Information Valentines Event 2021 Balance Changes [Explained]

So not only will I have to ap reset into dex because my pali can no longer wear its existing shoes due to lvl req and therefore use its weapon, but the shoes wont benefit from their slots being expanded.

 

Also now thieves have a potential 41 att shield but the warrior shield is still the same max att as a maple shield?

 

heroes that are already the strongest cleave in the game and risk free got buffed, and you keep the cider nerf?
nice really ''healthy''

 

as always, only Heroes, Shads and Archers must be the strongest and the rest can stay nerfed
"Great Job"

 

move aside 23 att wg. New meta is 23 att ~20 stat glove. unless you CS all the way. The opportunities are endless

 

shads got a bug fixed, what are you talking about lol

 

*not on balance team but responding as a Shadower player*

This is probably due to the fact that the existing Dragon Khanjar comes with 15 base weapon attack for Shadowers to use, and there is actually a Maple Thief Shield that no one uses (since NLs don't use shields). So it makes sense that the Timeless endgame Thief shield should have higher potential than the DKhan.

 

Rip money and time invested on my timeless gloves. A punch in the gut for those who invested early.

 

Uhhhh any chance these can be retroactively applied...I just spent all my money scrolling myself a complete reverse archer set T_T

 

*Also responding as a shadower player*

The main thing that causes concern for me is that the list is a STRless shield. Might be a bit meta-shifting to have the end-game shield no longer require STR

 

I'm aware. Even a halfassed scrolled DK could easily hit 30 att, and while it's good to increase the slots for the timeless warrior shield, it's still essentially useless for multiple reasons. It takes an insane amount of resources, time, and / or money to craft, it's untradable even within account (once it's been equipped), meaning that anyone who plays a pali and hero cannot share the equips, and it provides only minor stat increases. The only way for it to hit 30 att is via WSing, wheras a DK or timeless thief shield could both hit 30 (semi) reasonably. And the fact that it's level locked to 150+ now.

Outside of style and defense (and the minor stat increases) there's no reason to use it / invest that much into it, over a maple shield. I'm under the impression non weapons don't get WAtt from leveling, but even then that'd be a very minor amount.

 

1) DrKs aren't far off Hero in terms of damage wise, I personally think you just need better gear.
2) DrKs are literally essential to almost every late game boss because of HB. Very rarely did you see Heroes drafted for 6 man HTs.

I'm not sure why you're so upset about these changes.

Aren't you a NL main? You really should have nothing to complain about DPS wise...

 

Currently (December 2020 patch) with best in slot everything, tier 10 ring, and perfect rolls on all Timeless level ups, LUK Bishop is about 25 TMA behind LUKless. This gap gets smaller if you introduce chaos scrolls and some very very good luck with expiring event rings. I don't think this is a reasonable standard for measurement, especially given that Timeless/Reverse equips are untradable. With this patch, LUK Bishop will be about even or marginally (~10 TMA?) better (not counting bonus damage from raw INT vs damage from equivalent magic attack) but only at very high levels (150+). Keep in mind none of this stuff is tradable once it starts leveling... helm (Zhelm/Targa), overall, staff, shoes, gloves, shield will all be untradable... gotta scroll and level it yourself and if it fails you can't sell it to recuperate losses. If the community does decide that LUK is better than LUKless, prices will adjust accordingly. Only real issue I see with this change is that ArchMages don't really benefit a ton from it since they're still gonna be like 90 TMA behind LUKless if they use the 160 staff.

 

Hace mucho pedí que echo of hero sea usable durante supertansformación en los bucaneros pero creo que no leyeron mi sugerencia, tambien que oak barrel se bug y quedas atrapado para siempre aveces cuando te golpean kekv

 

Can we have Timeless Thief Shield to have two different shields with different stat requirements.
Level 150: DEX 160 LUK 300 (7-11 ATT)
Level 150: STR 75 DEX 160 (9 - 13 ATT)

or have Timeless Thief Shield to have 75 STR along with it
Level 150: STR 75 DEX 160 LUK 300

Adding attack to a LUK Shield by default is going to kill STR Bandit entirely. As the shield is far better than getting Dragon Khanjar.

The whole purpose of STR bandit is to have 13~17 more attack than what LUK bandit have thanks to a dragon Khanjar. Now having a timeless thief shield is just going to defeat the purpose of STR bandits in the first place. Dragon Khanjar will soon be neglected later on

 

Also as a shad main:
In my experience, it isn't too hard to get close to 4 base str while having the 75 needed to wear the dkhanjar. Especially if you farm monster book ring and use event equips (halloween was +5 stat per ring). Because of this, I don't think the str dagger meta is likely to shift with or without these changes.

 

Min-maxed end game shads already only have like ~10 base str, if not less, with no gear scrolled specifically for STR so it won't make much of a difference, if at all.
You're still going to need STR to use your dagger, unless you opt for a killic/kreda/blood dagger, in which case those daggers have 2 less att than their str counterparts, which just about nullifies the advantage gained from having no base str. Some shads are even able to manage with 4 base str, so opting for a str-less build would be worse at end game for those funded individuals.

 

So you mean to tell me that the Reverse/Timeless equipments are now lv 150, just one day after i made my dank gun and sold my Dragon Revolver away?

 

While I agree, I would note, using low stat for event equips is cursed. They almost never have the events properly line up with when stuff is going to expire, and there's no gaurentee that you can get replace it with the same tier of gear, and if you play more than one character, it's generally too much of a grind. If you fail to participate in an event, or fail to get enough gear, you're at a disadvantage, and possibly have to ap reset in order to wear gear. They could reduce the need for this significantly increasing the expiration time (e.g., 6 months with refreshes to the slots every 3 or 4 months, or even better, 9 months, with refreshes every 6 months). But that would be too pro consumer.

 

Thank you for buffing Enrage and HT meta of cleaving.
Yet, I think cider should be nerf so it be no equal to "rage".
Also, Talking about shields -
*talking as owner of 19att maple shield*
I think Timeless / Reverse shields should be buffed so it come with base attack.
why ?
*In terms of Si*
Using 2handed sword buff the warrior attack range by 1.2, so lets say I think best shield I've ever seen in game was 23att +perfect 1h sword (140 NT /138Sparta/143 Carabella / 150 1h timeless sword)
now lets combine shield+1h sword
NT - 163 att - equal to 135/136 2h sword
Sparta - 161 att - equal to 134 ish 2h sword
Carabella -166 att - equal to 138 ish 2h sword
1h TL sword - 173att - equal to 144 ish 2h sword. (Yet, I dont believe there will be ever 150att 1h sword in game)

so now today's terms, 1h sword +shield even if we talking about perfect weapons is too low to be equal to 2handed sword.(not even talking about axes)
I think there is a reason to buff timeless shield with attack base and/or buff 1h sword attack by 1.05 to 1.07 ish.