GUILD WARS: A GPQ Reward Overhaul

I jebaited you in discord but tbh its an interesting usage of guild points and GPQ (if not for NX).

 

Really neat idea Hiyo. Bumping with my immediate impressions:

• Multiclient/Multibox (Having multiple characters in the PQ) would have to be FORBIDDEN (IN THE PQ) for this to be a wholesome guild activity and not a degenerate sweatfest.
• Guilds would get bigger, with tons of active members coming together to collaborate for more rewards. This would be bad for smaller guilds, but IMO the bigger the better.
  • Maybe there should be a baseline Guild Ranking participation prize for those small guilds who run GPQ at least once weekly.
• GPQ would be POPPIN, which is awesome because it's a really fun PQ.
• Weekly rewards sounds dope. Will add so much life to the game.

I'd like to see this go somewhere!

EDIT: also maybe change your title to something more obvious so more people will click on the thread. 'Guild Wars' sounds like you're talking about the MMO.

 

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/guild-rally.40221/#post-268300

someone suggested something similar. I liked your ideia but I kinda preferred to see damage based guild competition. The best scenario would be the two kind of competition. For instance: time to clear a boss pq or even one special ht with one hour timer and cap of runners at 6 or 12 and the GPQ thing you suggested. This way, small and strong guild groups may get the rings by the bossing experience not destroying the small guilds. At the same time, big builds gonna be able to compete constantly for GPQ and boss pq.

 

I'm on board with coming up with unique ways to utilize guild points, but I'm against resetting total Guild Points accumulated on the leaderboards. Wiping out Abby's GPQ record is something I'd be adamantly against. A happy medium would be to have two separate point boards - one for total accumulated and another for weekly accumulated.

 

think it would be better if its more of a guild activity thing, not a sweaty DMG thing imo. so its not just for endgame players. people can easily also just leave guilds and join their friends and etc. doesnt really make guilds loyal or just guild hopping nonstop.

 

pretty sure it's possible to just add another NPC for weekly reset board.

 

Yeah, I'd be totally on board with that. Incentivizing competition would actually light a fire under Honor's ass to continue towards that 1 mil gp goal.

 

i changed the main post. I think there should be the two kind of competition as the only GPQ thing gonna make the small guilds vanish as the more members a guild has more constant GPQs there will be (even if there’s a limit), like Skuire said. That way, small guilds can compete for damage/ group work. Boss pq doesn’t need to be dpm only but may need different classes to clear. Consider changing guild just to do the pq abuse to counter what you brought up. That way, every guild may compete for GPQ and boss pq separatly. Bigger guilds gonna still benefit from more constant GPQs.

 

I want it just for when next year's Zombie Rings expire again and we'll see a dozen guilds with over a million points competing to replace them with Guild Ring

 

banger idea, but in addition i suggest also having an exclusive chair for the top guild that expires weekly to flex on the noober guilds

 

As much as I like the idea of hp rings, I would rather not see hp gear be locked behind a system that not everyone can participate in / is temporary. A lot of people *need* the extra hp to have access to certain content. It would be so stressful to commit to say a PB run contingent on winning the guild ring that week. I would rather hp/def rings be something permanent (quest ring) or 3-6 months like events.

That said, I love this idea, and the idea of different guilds competing. There's a lot of potential for keeping the server fresh during non-event periods. It could even be a rotating roster of guild events (not just GPQ). Like speed running the boss rush event from last year, the summer event jq, the beanstalk challenge, etc.

 

Contribution needs to be reset if a character leaves a guild and joins another one; otherwise guild hopping will be a massive problem. Also, if you additionally take away the monetary/tradable rewards and focus on untradable rewards, then multi-clienting will no longer become so advantageous that action needs to be taken against it, which is probably one of the bigger feasibility problem with this system.

Double post: Also, participation rewards are necessary to give people who aren't so good at JQs (because GPQ is basically a JQ gauntlet with some one-person show puzzle stages filling the middle) incentive to actually try. Finally, there should be some kind of limit to how many GPQs count per day towards this system (either runs per day or maximum guild points per day could work, both have their upsides and downsides), otherwise the whole thing devolves into how many no life people you have in your guild to spam GPQ all day, and I'm not sure if that's really the intent of this GPQ reward overhaul system.

 

Personally I’d like to see a permanent ring and complete removal of all the att pots, gach, and meso rewards so that removes the potential muling problem all together.

Something like a tier 1-10 ring that you can upgrade with every 30k points that your character contributes to GPQ. It can basically be a copycat of the monster book ring but for GPQ.

 

Perhaps the personal GP earned can be used as currency instead. This way, you can choose when you cash in your GP for untradeable rewards and also the rings so that smaller guilds can obtain them too. It may possibly prevent guild hopping. I feel like the weekly ranks should award only cosmetics stuff, if not, at least not the rings.

 

Ah, the good old days of speed gpq runs for NX <3 Paci

If multi-clienting is gona be restricted in the future for this gpq competition aspect, might i coin in on the lvl30 and below JQ pov, this dude would literally not be able to receive rewards.

Some other consideration, since GPQ is currently possible to be conducted in every channel (running simultaneously by the same guild), we'd have to prevent guilds from hoarding channels. Meaning, 1 guild can only have 1 instances running in 1 channel at a time and not other channels.

Also, if possible i would love to see the
- MATK boosted to at least 150
- Cap on ATT pots per character i.e. < 15x Att pot, 2hrs - 2hrs 30mins (alchemist)
Where throughout the week till the next event, hoarders are encourage to use this att pot for both main and exp runs, not saving them all for pb.

unless you dont mind players running around with 100+ x free 50WA/120MA pots at disposal, gaining somewhat of an upper hand in clear times compared to those rankless and guildless - not all players want a guild, high att pots (almost apple tier) are fine to a certain extent but not when the disparity of boss run timings and fundings/cost of att pot vary significantly). The rings alone are already very attractive, i do not see why the # of att pots can't be lowered

likewise to the occasional joking bans to ur pals and when jr's/masters forgets about the rings and the member's progression restarts, a notice for this info might be necessary as a [MapleTip] or Upon entry of GPQ message.

I like the idea of the ring, but however not to expire weekly if not it'd be a messy weekly AP allocation management task. Where a progression based tier-ed ring (i.e. Diamond = Tier 10 cap, Platinum = Tier 9 cap, Gold...) could well fit in, where guild members who achieved rank 1 in week 1 would be given a quest completion via the new NPC; Shuang to exchange (meso sink: 1mil meso cost) for a Tier 1 ring (+1 AS, hp/acc..., no expiry) and on winning rank 1 again in week 2 to upgrade (2mil meso cost) to a Tier 2 ring (+2 AS...) and so on. Upon reaching Tier 10 (for example) Diamond ring, players would then have a 10 week expiry (potential chance to do less gpq runs which may increase other smaller guilds chance of a higher rank), which generates a continuous safety net of progression weekly and draw players back again nearing/post expiry.
In unique cases where a guild member attains rank 1 in week 1 (Tier 1 diamond) and rank 2 in week 2 (Tier 1 platinum), he should be holding onto 2 different rings (Diamond and Platinum), should he be awarded with rank 1 in week 3, it'd continue onwards the progression of the Diamond ring, Tier 1 >> 2.

Also, the meso rewards could be removed/ way significantly lower as it does not cost much to speed run a GPQ (even via ME).

 

I would love to see GPQ points be useful for something. At the moment they're quite meaningless since no one really cares for the leaderboard due to it being full of inactive guilds.

 

Maybe add a second guild leaderboard that reset every month or week with a reward for the top guilds.