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Headless Horseman buff?

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Yoral, Jun 13, 2021.

  1. Yoral
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    Hi, second suggestion so far.
    So recently, I've been on that lvl90+ grind as a warrior (White Knight). The grind is quite awkward, considering mages seemingly level faster when they're in the 120s, and that the mobs around 90-100 are quite bad for warriors from my experience. The best mobs so far are Vikerolas (as a white knight) and Grim Phantom Watches.
    Problem:
    I decided to try Headless Horseman, as this boss was something I remember hunting for on another server, a very long time ago, as a White Knight. To my immense disappointment, the re-spawn timers ranged from 10 hours to a whopping 13:30 hours (according to the ML database). In my opinion, this is way too long and brutal for them to be anything nearing viable, especially when grinding gives you many more mesos.
    It also doesn't help that there's only 8 channels to check. I can't imagine trying to hunt BFs with 8 channels and 2k concurrent players.

    Solution:
    Simply change the re-spawn timers to something ranging between 4-8 hours. Thank you if this ever gets accepted. I will probably never benefit from this, but maybe future warriors might.
     
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    To be fair, neither does Bigfoot. The boss points seem limited to bosses that need an item for spawn.
     
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    Ok well, rip i guess. Capt. Latanica is limited to 2 a day, so I guess I'm doing only that.
     
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    the Capt is just 2 points per kill, not really worth it.

    EDIT! the Capt is 10 points now !!!!! so it is good :)
     
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    To be fair, I feel like there are classes that are far more reliant on HH's than White Knights.

    However, I think that HH isn't supposed to be seen as a viable standard grinding option. If you're lucky enough to find one up (which is pretty doable), you've got lucky and you enjoy a pretty sweet boost in exp. In my personal view it shouldn't be something you can comfortably rely on for your standard, day-to-day grind.
    The same thing goes for Anego, Bigfoot, etc, etc.
     
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    Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think it will be a viable choice to stay grinding at. I just like going to it once a day for a bit of a boost in exp, then go back to grinding because HH eats through expensive pots. As it stands though, I htink the respawn rates are still too long. Asking for a 6hr to 8hr re-spawn time seems a bit more ideal. HH was one of the ways warriors would get 'helped' into the 120s, as far as I remember.
     
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    From what I remember back when grinding my then white knight, Himes are quite decent exp. Mobs don't have to have elemental weaknesses to be good grinding material even for WKs.

    Also, spawning bosses don't count towards boss point is persumably to stop them from being camped even more.
     
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    You know there are several maps that spawn HH and BF? Not just one.

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    Yes. I did the rounds for HH.
     
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    People have been asking for shorter timers on all the area bosses for a year now. Ever since the covid boom, even adding 2 channels has not been enough to sustain the player base. There's been multiple suggestion on way to summon the boss or a separate mini-dunegon, or as you suggest just shortening the timer. I'm sure staff has read these suggestions before, so hopefully they decide to do something.
     
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    You have to remember that there's 8 channels and 8 different maps for both HH and BF, equating to a total of 64 possible spawns. Even though server resets have them all wiped after 1-3 hours, you are still capable of finding a few after a day or so, especially in The Evil Dead where hardly anyone goes to fight them.
    I personally never had a problem with finding them, especially when I hunted them as a Bucc, Hero, Pally, Sair and BM.
     
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    Yes, I understand that. Like I said, I did the rounds. However, even though 64 possible places for HH, it is still not very viable because:
    1. 2 of those spawns also spawn BF, and some people can't afford to buy 5 safety charms every time they want to go HH hunting (so 48 possible spawns that are safe)
    2. Searching for HH, in itself is a big time sink, which, makes grinding more consistent unless you're able to find a "batch" of HHs.​
    I know "64" seems like a big number on its face, but in reality it's smaller than it seems. People are desperately clawing their way to 120 at the moment. While I can't go back in time and experience the other times where people were trying to 120 on this server, I think I can say that, right now, there seems to be many people trying for it. Most of these people are, unfortunately, at the seemingly eternal grind of killing CDs at Taipei 101. One of my guildmates is one of these creatures, and he's already lost enough sanity to change his discord icon and name to Greatest Oldies.
    All I want is to relive the Phantom Forest experience with my friend, and have it be viable as an occasional grinding spot to break up the times we're mindlessly grinding at CDs.
     
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    I understand the sentiment, but I feel like I always accidentally run into 3 HH's when hopping through Phantom Forest OnionF6
     
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    You're probably right about how these are bosses were intended to be used, but honestly I think the gameplay of hunting down Headless Horsemen for XP is more fun than grinding mobs. >w>

    As another suggestion, personally I think it would be cool if HH respawned instantly but only on 1 or 2 maps per channel, and never the same map. So you kill him and then have to hunt around for the next one.
     
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