Discussion on balance changes to sweeping.

Most of the people writing on here oppose the recent changes to sweepers, those who are in favor or exploring the patch before judging won't type as much on here or be as vocal as those who oppose the change. I personally like this change, and have spoke about it a bit on discord with some friends and didn't see the need to write a post on here, but I did express my feelings on this patch to some players and staff members. Pretty sure the number of people writing on this thread don't add up to 30, which isn't much for a server with 1k+ concurrent players.

However, while I do support the recent changes, I do see the point of party play being sacrificed and I do hope that somehow that is improved upon while still keeping the original intent of this change.

 

/Thread over.
Intention of change: good
Execution of change: could use some work

 

You don't say? There's 18 pages worth of comments, with 40+ and 400+ views. You're never going to get a solid grasp of what the entire community wants because not everyone vocalizes their opinions. However, abstaining from the discussion doesn't imply agreement or approval of the recent changes.

You are a vocal minority here in this thread by agreeing with the changes - just as those who are speaking out in protest might also a vocal minority within the community.

 

Friendly reminder that the sweeper changes also inadvertently nerf shad utility in bosses such as HT and zak. #makeppgreatagain

 

We do find the QoL issues to do with the change are an issue, and are considering solutions, including all the ones suggested in this thread.

We are working on it as fast as we can and we will let you know when there’s a decision!

 

Suggestion: Balance Team requirement: You need to be fairly sweaty

 

How come Maplelegends still doesn't have some sort of patcher for updates, this would make updates way easier for gm's and players wouldn't have to be forced to redownload the game every 3 months or so. Wouldn't it be smart to be able to update the game every week or two with patch notes Like in WoW or LoL?

 

i think we shld limit the mage mules as mentioned here, that may help with meso farming and if possible, allow for the revert of nerf changes done to sweeper mules.

 

So many workarounds to that proposal. Wouldn't solve anything

 

Any meso drop nerf can be compensated by adding another mage client

 

Do people even multimage farm anymore? I feel like the server has been pretty quiet the last however many months with fewer and fewer people playing. Prices creeping up to all time highs even with the 'massive meso production nerf' is pretty meme.

 

Absolutely.

As for the rest of your post, the decreasing population is indeed at least equally significant of a factor in inflation as the supposed meso printing getting out of hand.

 

Not really sure. One day i walked through RoR2 and saw a quad mage setup there which was pretty neat. I think theres two main causes to the price increase now:
(1) Top-heavy population looking to ws their gear (higher demand)
(2) Less server population means less gach pulls (less supply)

 

Same with shaolin freeze nerfs about a year ago...which one could argue actually led to the popularization of multimage. So uh return freezable monks when?

 

I think #1 is valid and has been the reason for ws/cs price increases over the past few years. #2 seems a little less direct/obvious to me based on personal observations of server activity.

I completely stopped playing my mages and thus haven't gached in many months outside of the ones I gain from card hunting. Whenever I visit the meta leech spots, they're always empty. I've instead completely shifted towards bossing, and I feel like most of the end-game players I know in the server have shifted/retired in the same fashion.

If pog coins are implemented, I don't think it would necessarily mean an increase in ws/cs production but would rather just shift the way in which these items get produced, which means we might still face a supply issue.