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PB DPM Flex Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Oradious, Jul 24, 2021.

  1. iPippy
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    A second post for consistency. These are the usual numbers I expect. I'm actually pretty far from the strongest in terms of att gear (12 cape, 15 glove, 105 weapon) so I know this can go higher at its peak. A perfect Dragon alone should be like a 5% boost on apple?

    Relevant stats/buffs for this run:
    Si, Se, echo, MW20, HS, Bless, Smoke
    Total Attack: 132 gear + 100 apple + echo
    Total STR: 1211
    Total DEX: 141 (event rings are nuts)
    Total Avoid: 455

    Statue25: A fairly cleave friendly run. Took a failed gamble on getting a free ST from TL in Stage 5 over DS spam at the end of stage 4, losing almost the entire 2 mins of DS spam. A minor loss not worth crying over though (probably 100-150k).
    [​IMG]

    Body20: Nothing interesting to note here. A few instances of seds during a couple DRs, but about as tame as bean aggro can be expected to be atm, all things considered. Even taking the aggro a second before seems to have no guarantee bean wont choose chaos immediately after.
    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Gurk
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    Gurk Nightshadow

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    Statue25 w/ some L7 (started having lag spikes towards the last quarter):
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    xiaoyaoz Balance Team Staff Member Balance Team

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    First PB as bishop after PB returns from maintenance, not bad for body dpm I think.

    PB statue dpm25 left side party
    [​IMG]
    PB body dpm20, pure AR, wizard elixir only (total 1.6k tma)
    [​IMG]
    PB body another dpm20, got it like 30 seconds after pb down, realised I can gen mini-bean for some boosted dpm kekw
    [​IMG]

    Edit: Oh ya, spent some time going through 2 res and 2 TL during body. Also, has a shad in the party for smoke every 5min.
     
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    Cashew2 Orange Mushroom

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    Statues DPM 25 on left side, apple + se + si + mw20:
    upload_2021-8-3_23-31-49.png

    Body DPM 20 after 1st DR:
    upload_2021-8-3_23-32-52.png

    Still getting used to boat zerking and reacting to DR while zerking, so boat is breaking a lot more than it should since I panic pot to full when DR is off CD.

    Also pretty average gear (14wa gloves, 10wa cape), so lots of room for improvement.
     
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    Mers Slime

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    Statue 30:[​IMG]
    Body 30:[​IMG]
    Buffs: Apple, SE, MW20, Echo, Red Bull
     
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  6. Selquin
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    Selquin Headless Horseman

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    After getting more comfortable with the melee hurricane setup and being generally more confident in not stopping for DR, managed to squeeze past the 4m milestone on body.
    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Edann
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    Edann Slimy Retired Staff

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    DPM 40. Started a lil after body summoned.

    J> pb

    MapleLegends_Bfqid252Sl.jpg
     
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    Oradious Mr. Anchor

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    dpm25statue8aug.png

    DPM25 statue, no SE, wizard Elixir, party leader

    dpm20body8aug.png

    DPM20 body, no SE, party leader, ssiws cheese, NO meteor used (paralyze only)
     
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    upload_2021-8-7_22-15-55.png
    edit: credit to melee hurricane
     
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    My posts here have turned more journal-like, but eh well. I wasnt going to make another post this week but this is an attempt to gauge the value of smoke on my PB bucc. This run we traded an SE for a 2nd smoke, so it gave me a decent chance for me to take a sample of how it compares. SE is a nice buff for us, but nowhere near mandatory. I think demo is like a 4.5% boost, and barrage is slightly higher? I could be mistaken, but I'm too lazy to do the numbers. Ive also had a tendency to go most of a smokescreen duration without realizing that it was another party's smoke all along (iframes and avoid lol), so I wasnt sure how much smoke actually adds for myself.

    Relevant stats/buffs for this run: (same as previous)
    Si, echo, MW20, HS, Bless, Smoke, Smoke but again
    Total Attack: 132 gear + 100 apple + echo
    Total STR: 1211
    Total DEX: 141
    Total Avoid: 455

    Statue25: It's hard to know for certain with just one sample, but this was actually slightly higher than I expected. It's a bit hard to tell at a glance if the lower dpm compared to older posts is due more to the loss of SE or slightly less efficient statues for cleavers this run. I also dont remember exactly when the smokes were used, so I cannot comment on if they were used at the best times to maximize a buccaneer's damage. I'd believe it to be most helpful during the start of stages 4/5 if I am transformed. Even with some padding to account for cleave downtime however, I believe I'd still rate SE > SS (slightly) in statues.
    [​IMG]

    Body20: Again, only one sample, but the lack of SE appears to show more here. The numbers may look closer relative to other runs, but the resistance "squishes" the numbers together. It's already very similar to the previous run, but adding in a conservative 4% from the missing SE to the run puts it close to the run I had mw30 for. With nothing to make me think this run had other large gains or losses, I'd consider the benefit of the smoke noticeable, and helpful for peace of mind while doing the bean dance. With the one sample I have, I believe I'd rate SE = SS in body, but it could honestly lean either way.

    [​IMG]

    The benefit for smoke is definitely in its scalability as each smoke can add its boost, compared with multiple SE providing no additional benefit. Smokescreen should provide a much more significant boost to other classes as well; it would be interesting to compare how it stacks up for them.

    Tl;dr Smoke is nice. Even on a character with 45x avoid, iframes, and stance, I'd still take more smoke.
     
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    Accidental statue20:
    1.PNG
    Stayed on left side this time and didn't use L7 (last statue25 was 6m on right side with L7 usage, with some severe lag spikes). DPM would have been significantly lower (likely low 4m) if it was a dpm25 considering the next 10 minutes after the dpm20 ended were spent just spamming bstep on left owl. Shad dpm seems to be about 33% higher on right side for squads that don't utilize optimized cleave-friendly strats.

    Body20:
    2.PNG
    On two apples and had a bish this time which allowed me to use more charged nates. For reference, last body dpm test was a 3.46m dpm30 with two gelts, one apple and no bish. Doesn't seem possible to break 3.5m on just apples. Body dpm tests seem consistent so there's likely no value in me posting them anymore.
     
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    DPM 20 Body 5th Sept
    [​IMG]


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    Older DPMs
    DPM 20 Body 25th August
    [​IMG]

    -10min zerk, 10min non-zerk
    -avoid gear
    -party leader
    -didn't DR for a while :^)
    buffs: Apple, SE, SI, MW30, Echo, Baskets

    DPM 20 Body 13th August
    [​IMG]

    -non zerk (PE)
    -avoid gear
    buffs: Apple, SE, SI, MW30, Echo, Baskets (using a lower attk cape from 8th)
    improvement from previous week

    DPM 20 Statue 8th August

    [​IMG]
    -Boat died twice
    -Smoked once or twice
    Buffs: Apple, SE, SI, MW20, Echo

    DPM 20 Body (after first DR) 8th August
    [​IMG]
    -Boat died ? times (will count next time)
    -No smoke, as I was left side
    -Non zerk (Using PE)
    Buffs: Apple, SE, SI, MW20, Echo

    DPM Statue Missing 30th July

    DPM 15 Body (after first DR) 30th July
    [​IMG]
    Buffs: Apple, SE, SI, MW20, Echo
    -Non zerk (Using PE)

    DPM 20 Statue 18th July
    [​IMG]
    Buffs: Apple, SE, SI, MW20, Echo

    DPM 20 Body (after first DR) 18th July
    [​IMG]
    Buffs: Apple, SE, SI, MW20, Echo
    -Non zerk (Using PE)
     
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    POG JummyJummy LETS GO JIMMY!!!
     
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    Statue DPM 25
    Forgot statues also have DR and was just chilling and died lol
    Buffs: Echo, Apple, MW20/MW30 mixed, SE, Basket at the end
    Death time included in this epm: around 2 minutes~
    Will try to get 10mil one day for this part ~ maybe when I'm around lvl 182-185

    [​IMG]

    Edit: Didn't realize I didn't get my body dpm ): must've spelled it wrong or something. Next time!
     
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    no Hero's / Pally's DPM? :banghead:
     
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    Lumina Master Chronos

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    Pally DPM has been posted/updated early on by PreP! See below:

     
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    HERO DPM
    3.2mil dpm 20 with 1 death and as party leader [​IMG]
     
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    PB statue DPM25 left side party. Apple with SE+Echo+MW20, no smoke. [~73% of dummy 'freefire' DPM3]
    ~3min Dragonstrike while waiting for range to finish phase 4.
    upload_2021-8-14_20-26-7.png

    PB body DPM20 right side party. Cider only + on Aggro duty (2min transform 2 min off transform) [~15% of dummy 'freefire' DPM3]
    upload_2021-8-14_20-26-32.png
    Not the greatest for body DPM, even adding a multiplier for apple + no aggro duty, I doubt it will be anywhere close to iPippy's DPM.
    I think it will be quite hard to break 3m+ DPM if barrel barrage is not used during off-transform.
    Maybe one day, I wont be on aggro duty anymore then I can check my bucc's pure DPM.
     
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    is it allowed 20 dpm 1?
     
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