Did I mess up? HP washing bucc 30k

It's good that you have so much int. The order for you should be:

1: MP wash all AP
2: When you have enough MP for 30k HP, reset int
3: Fresh HP wash

Vote Cash might become a problem, overall I think rough estimates for a 30k bucc are something like 2.5 million?

I haven't done the math but I think you'll be MP washing until 120 or so with all AP, then HP washing from 120 onward. If you have fresh AP, HP wash, if you have extra Vote Cash, reset int.

 

You will be able to hit 30k HP at level 180 if you MP wash only 62 times from levels 72-84, then wash with fresh HP 479 times (until level 180). This is assuming you will get 1100 HP from gear (T10 ring + ellin ring), idk how much you'll actually be going for or if buccs use MoN or HTP or whatever.

Spoiler: Calculations

My calculations are:
HP at level 180 without washing = 4727 +109*55 + 1100(gear) = 11822
Required fresh HP washes = (30000-11822)/38 = 479
This requires 96 levels of fresh AP.
Total MP required = 479*16 = 7664
Passive gained MP = 119*40 = 4360 MP. Already gained MP is 2948-1373=1575
MP required from further MP washing = 7664-4360-1575 = 1729 mp.
MP washes needed = 1729/28 =62 MP washes needed,
62 AP points is less than 13 levels of MP washing

That's right, you get it

 

Well it's actually a random value between 52-58 every time you level up, 52 is very conservative assuming you'll get the minimum value every time, but that's extremely unlikely and I believe that using the average value of 55 is more accurate

 

So I think the biggest difference between zeroxlr 's approach and mine is that they are removing all of their base int at level 123 after finishing MP washing, while I'm keeping it all until level 180?

That being said, I do have a few other problems with their calculations.

So from looking at your sheet I think the problem here is the huge disparity between numAPperXtraMP vs. FreshAPendMPwash. If you think about it, every MP wash you don't do gives you an extra fresh AP to HP wash with, and the fact is that we have more MP than we need there and not enough fresh AP for HP washing. I believe that when the value of 1 fresh HP wash is greater than the amount you can gain by stale washing the MP you gain from 1 MP wash (for a bucc this happens when base INT<360), you would be able to gain more HP by reducing the number of MP washes until numAPperXtraMP = FreshAPendMPwash.

Also, if you look at the totalmixedwashedHPlvl200 it shows that we have enough MP to stale wash for an extra 1272 HP above 30k. Considering each stale wash only provides 18 HP, this means we have a surplus of 1130 MP. If it had stopped MP washing 6 levels earlier it would've still had enough MP while allowing 30 more points for fresh HP washing (which is still not nearly enough to be optimal).

 

Okay in hindsight the first response I gave was taking very literally the idea of getting 30k ASAP and isn't actually very practical. If you want, you can get rid of your INT wayy earlier if you're willing to delay hitting 30k, and it won't even be delayed by that much

A few examples:

Spoiler: My original suggestion: 30k HP at level 180, keep INT until 180, uses 838 AP resets.

MP wash 62 times from levels 72-84. Level up with 400 total INT until level 180. Fresh HP wash 479 times from levels 84-180 and hit 30k HP at level 180.

Spoiler: 30k HP at level 186, keep INT until level 140 or 151, uses 868 AP resets.

MP wash 100 times from levels 72-91. Level up with 400 total INT until level 140. Reset base down to 4 INT and level up with 100 INT from gear 44 more times (or reset INT 11 levels later and never wear INT gear again).
Fresh HP wash 471 times from levels 92-186 and hit 30k HP at level 186.

Spoiler: 30k HP at level 191, keep base INT until 100 or 110, uses 892 AP resets.

MP wash 145 times from level 72-100. Reset it down to 4 INT at level 100. Level up with 100 INT from gear 40 more times (or 10 levels later and no INT gear).
Fresh HP wash 450 times from levels 101-191 and reach 30k HP at level 191.

You might be alarmed by how different these are from the other responses, but they really do add up. For reference I made enough MP for 24k HP on my bucc, and my INT never went above 150 base + 50 from gear, the 300 base int that you clearly added at a very low level is more than enough for it to be this easy from here.

 

It also might be worthy of note that with 25k HP you are as capable as a 30k HP bucc at tanking hits, as the highest damage any melee class reasonably needs to take is Pink Bean touch at just under 25k. This reduces the associated costs significantly and gives modest freedom in application of AP.

I don't think the character is screwed up at all or that it's necessary to reset. 25k+ buccs are actually fairly rare, even in efficient low-man PB squads many of the buccs are running with 16-20k HP, but 25k is when they're considered safe to put into a party without Hyper Body.

 

i have no idea how much NXs u have to spare. but with the assumption of unlimited, it is doable. worst case scenario will be to MP wash whenever possible but you add INT, maybe even till 500int.

 

yeah but 25k buccs are similar to 25k warrior, u juz either get OCDed or lose flexing power xD

 

I only looked briefly at the first wash path, but the numbers look fairly accurate. It's been a while since I've looked at the numbers, but I usually quote mp washing with around 280-300 base int depending on gear to be the "nx efficient" value to reach 30k. Milage may vary as youll need to make sure there's enough fresh hp washes to get the job done after mp wash, but that's usually not an issue unless you wait a while before washing.

Without doing calcs myself I'd be inclined to believe these should work with what I recall from making my own 30k bucc.

(And for what it's worth, 30k clean is the real stretch goal. MP recovery scales on base hp instead of total hp, so a 29k clean + 1k book ring has a 2900 mp recovery, while a 30k clean has a 3k mp recovery. But by that point we're already fully mp potless outside of mana drains and 1/1s )

 

ya i gotta say that mp from mp recovery skill is sooo nice with high base hp, im at 18k clean and i get 1.8k mp (10% of ur base hp) and already mp potless. So if u cba to get to 30k just settle for 29k + mb ring

other than that math seems ok so gl