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Accepted Allow Islanders to Raffle/Raffle Quest

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by zeroxlr, Mar 20, 2022.

  1. zeroxlr
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    zeroxlr Windraider

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    Islanders are on KNEES for allowance into joining the festivities of Raffle/Raffle Quest!

    OnionGirlWink

    Please allow for the change of raffle quest on Maple Island to be random island mobs, maybe via checking Map ID or some way that works.

    Thank you for Staffs' HARD work and much support! :heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat:
     
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  2. IoIzor
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    Hard agree
     
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    Also agree D:
     
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    Noire Game Moderator Staff Member Game Moderator

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    Agreed
     
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    Part of the balance of this raffle is the required traveling through the maple world.

    We'll discuss internally if we are going to add a way for islanders to raffle whilst staying on the island but if this is done there might be some changes to the raffle rewards and it will also require a server restart.
     
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    The islanders have to end up asking for this kind of stuff event after event. Isn’t it just easier to think ahead one week ahead and not add pointless systems like this?

    I could understand if there were new ground being tread here, but the event is literally a copy paste of last years event except this year it doesn’t allow islanders to participate. The quests are the laziest and most band-aid measure “balance” change that is going to stop exactly zero people who want to abuse raffle mules.
     
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  7. Chris
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    I think the island needs a permanent alternative to events. Most events are 70+, have a more complicated system not suitable to islanders, or don’t even contain the ideal items an islander would want anymore.

    There’s nothing in this item pool that is important enough to recode a quest so a couple people can do it on maple island. What islanders really need is storage, a custom permanent raffle, or a gachapon as events nowadays are getting farther and farther away from an islander to even be able to participate in them even if they have all the npcs.
     
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    Ah yes, the breezy procedure of drag and dropping the event.exe file into the "ACTIVE EVENT" folder and flicking the event switch on. Finally someone on forums is criticizing just how technically easy it is to set up the event to expose staff for them clearly hating islanders and not because much more thought and prep has to go into this fraction of the playerbase. Great work!

    (PS. I think something like ChrisChris suggested would be a great solution)
     
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    YAY!!
    I know that this is just a tiny chance... OnionSpark

    It'd be really cool (WORTH IT) even if it's to scrounge the whole island to kill a TON of each of the maple island mob just to get 1 raffle.

    Thank you and everyone for taking time out to at least discuss the possibility of whether or not it'd be do-able :heartbeat:
     
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    I never said coding was that easy, but if you are really trying to argue that it takes more effort to do the exact same event with most of the exact same assets than to plan, create, and test something new then I don't know what to tell you. It is what it is, uninspired. But that’s not even the reason why I’m upset.

    Personally, I am more annoyed that of anything they decided to change, it had to be a tiny event point muling nerf that is just going to alienate more players than it actually deters from raffling. If it was an effective point muling nerf, I would say okay, I guess we should just bite the bullet. It’s for the best of the server that things are this way, because the islander community is not that big. But you are really trying to tell me that 100 cheap amplifiers is going to stop someone from loading up their 4 warrior mule setup? They could use the NX they farm in literally a day to teleport rock and leech every single quest. It is a poor decision, And I think it’s fair for me to criticize it.

    For what it’s worth, I agree with Chris too. Unfortunately, islander changes have been suggested long before this and we look to be at an impasse there. So where else should I give my thoughts if not here? They didn’t make a feedback thread for last event so I see no better place. This is a forum for discussion, not all feedback has to be positive.
     
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    give us storage or gacha.
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    cat : us islanders
    hand : GMs

    [​IMG]
     
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    But you can play the event guys!

    Just leave the island.
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    left the island to do the event
    how do i get back?
     
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    You should consult imakemagics
     
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    Do Flowers drop on maple island or nah??
     
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    Yellow - orange mushroom
    Red - red snail
    White - green snail
    Blue - blue snail
     
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    Oh I mean I know who drops them but they aren't locked out of dropping in Maple Island? I am assuming not because you answered it this way but just double checking. And thanks Chris.
     
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    The mobs on island are the same as off island. The roses being added to those specific mobs were so islanders could obtain them. :thumbsup:

    We complained about roses over a year before the first Valentines event. OnionMuha
     
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    Thanks Chris for confirming haha, I guess time for my Islander to collect to add to his growing equipment list f2. Great work XD
     
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    This was approved, and a "lite" version of the raffle will be added to Maple Island. The hunted monsters will ofcourse be Maple Island ones.

    -

    I would like to remind that Events are planned with "regular" gameplay in mind, and that the inclusion of extremely specific playstyles such as that of Islanders isn't always automatic, especially when the content is designed around a big monster pool to pick from, and in a minor way also around the potentially longer distance to travel.
    This to say that, while we will always consider and often accept Islander-including suggestions for events, it shouldn't come as a surprise that they're generally not part of the initial release.

    Also,
    In reality, there's a substantial difference between the raffle quests we've had so far that required 100 Etc. drops, and this event quest that requires 100 randomized kills (that cannot be shared by multiple people).

    Randomized quest requirements are not natively supported by our game version, so, as confusing as it may sound from a superficial look, the effort required to setup this raffle was much bigger than a lot of our previous ones.
    This is our first test run of the system, which will allow us to gather feedback on the technical and gameplay aspects of it, while we polish it further in preparation for upcoming more inspired uses.


    Thanks for the suggestion!
     
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