Add HP multiplier buff to HT/PB

Ugh, another post about hp washing. its almost as if the whole game revolves around it. (it does).

Background:

-HP washing was a "bug" in Global maplestory that allowed players to increase their hp through the means of AP resets.

• Now, some players will use this as an excuse to defend their claim that they want to keep maplestory nostalgic. However, was it really? if you think back to your childhood, did you really remember using your parents credit card to "HP wash"? Im pretty positive that 98% of you guys have NOT ever hp washed or even knew about it. Therefore sure, it is nostalgic to the orginal v62 game, but not at all nostalgic to the players themselves.
• GMS evolved (aka kept patching) learning from their flaws of bosses requiring an absurd amount of hp that the majority of the player base did not have access to. Therefore, eliminated the need to hp wash. PLAYERS NOT HAVING ENOUGH HP TO BOSS AT THE RESPECTIVE BOSSING LEVEL WAS A FLAW.

-So many excuses. enough with the bs, and lets be real.
WITHOUT HP WASHING NO ONE WOULD VOTE. That's the real reason. not, we want to keep it nostalgic. and NO. it is not optional.

• Now, at this point you all may be thinking "damn this guy really hates hp washing" well quite the contradictory. although a huge inconvenience, hp washing gives players who go through he trouble to be rewarded for their effort. No one should take that effort away from them.
• Whether or not you agree or disagree with this whole hp washing system, it is deterring new players from staying with ML. we need to fix this. seems like day after day theres a post about this. it should be a huge priority right now to help keep the influx of new players.

-My Solution:

• Entering a boss should buff the player with an additional (number)x multiplier to their hp.
• Kind of like HT boss buff.
• This multiplier should be calculated using the lowest number hp an unwashed class at the level required to gain exp. (ie. hp at lvl135 for zak, or hp at lvl155 for HT).
• Using nise's guide, for example: HT requires 6.2k hp. The hp buff multiplier should be a multiplier that buffs a UNWASHED ranged class HP at level 155 to 6.2k.

PROS:

• its temporary. so once the buff runs out, outside of bossing, you're back to your normal hp. Area bosses are unaffected.
• literally solves hp washing
• should be easy to implement, and easy to modify if required
• HP WASHING AND MP WASHING are still highly recommended to reduce risk of dyeing.
• As the multiplyer only takes the player to the minimum required HP, mechanics still must be learned
• still need to get into +-5 level range for the buff to actually work.
• OLD and NEW players are happy.
• people would still vote. the buff is temporary, and only takes player into minimum required hp. chance of death still high.
• rewards both types of players. those who learn mechanics and master it, and those who hp wash and ignore mechanics and hold one button
• more new players would join as HP washing is ACTAULLY OPTIONAL FOR REAL.
• influx of new players = more influx of materials/scrolls/ws/gatch/ helping decrease the demand. Up the inflow, decrease the inflation.

EDIT: this isnt general discussion. this is the suggestions section. enough with the irrelevant blame game and talk about an actual solution than go in circles where half the community is divided. you are not contributing to anything.

Please read the whole post BEFORE you post. if you dont undertand it, ask questions rather than throw a rain drop into the ocean. (its useless).

i cant believe i have to say all this. grow up and stop the whose right and whose wrong. i brought up a suggestion i believe would be beneficial to both sides of the hp washing spectrum. If you disagree, explain why, rather than say me right me no.

 

sorry im not understanding what you're saying, nor do i think you understand what I was saying.

 

im not sure why, but seems like people are more focused on the history of hp washing than the suggestion itself. are there any constructive criticism or agreement on the actual solution i suggested? i provided the history as a background to understand why my suggestion would be viable. but it seems like people are more interested in starting useless arguments than talk about the suggestion i brought up on [THE SUGGESTIONS SECTION]. This isnt general discussion. literally the last 5 posts have no irrelevance, and just hard justifications to support a blame game. stop trying to turn my SUGGESTION thread into a useless "duh me right duh me wrong". if you want to contribute, talk about the suggestion.

 

good points. i cant really say for everyone, but i feel like for the casual playerbase. it will.
1. really cant say, but cant we just modify a special HB buff incorporated into the HT buff that gives x bonus hp?

2. well i believe for most casuals, just the understanding that "hey, i really dont need to start over cause i didnt put any int" sounds promising.

3.a temporary buff increasing hp to the minum requirement by said level, plus a little bit of extra washing which any casual player can do, should be more than enough to support a healthy balance between learning the mechanics and having enough hp to survive.

4. in my option, we're probably adhering to the casual side a lot more than the middle or the late game of the pack. so casuals knowing that ht is really optional, should bring in more players to runs thus bringing in more materials (mastery books, pendants etc etc) helping the economy a bit. if you want to be competitive, there is still an option to thoroughly hp wash which most less than 12 man runs require, decreases death, more wiggle room for error, helps reduce pot cost, etc etc. so i think that there is still a HUGE BENEFIT of hp washing that would benefit a player if they choose to do so. but it would also give casuals a chance to even participate.

let me know your thoughts

 

ooo i really like this idea! the hp buff being a buff (temporary) + a threshold you need to meet sounds like it might satisfy both parties! im just worried about the coding, but REALLY. REALLY. good idea imo

 

ok great history as to the original game. unfortunately this is a private server with additional features such as pb which does in fact require hp washing. I am once again asking for suggestions or improvements to the suggestion i suggested above. i am once again asking for this kind of conversation to be discussed in the general discussion. im not here to talk about the history of the game, and argue about the mini facts of original maplestory. the fact of the matter is that hp washing is a thing in maplelegends that at least half of the population has a problem with, and im trying to think of a solution that helps both sides of the playerbase. NOT argue about mirco historical facts.

i really dont understand why people need to keep bringing in their personal stance on hp washing, or trying to micro correct everything that happened in mapleglobal. we're going in circles. lets stop talking about this for gods sakes, and actaully talk about a solution. thank you.

 

interesting suggestion! however, i feel like thats a lil too much. the goal isnt to get rid of hp washing completely, but to alleviate the barrier casuals have to allow them to boss at the respective level the boss is normaly done at. (ie. -5lvls). Hp washing should be rewarded to those who want to go through that rough journey. if you want to hit end END game, hp washing should be nessasary (note. but not required). i strongly believe that it should not be a consumable which can be stored, saved, and hoarded. it then gets rid of hyper body in general. it should be a temporary buff only in specific bosses that only buffs the hp at the respective level to the MINIMUM required thus mechanics are still highly required. those who hp wash can probably ignore a lot of the mechanics, and that should not be something someone who does not invest the same amount of time/work should easily receive.

(good idea, but im trying to think for everybody)