Make Bishop Mains 'alright' in Pink Bean

Change zombify to a 3k damage poison that can only be healed with dispel, or else shielded.

Get rid of Holy Resistance on Mini-Beans, increase their HP further, and give them new skills to buff defense, m defense, and attack, including on Mr. Big Bean.

Bishops deserve a lot more, but just those two ideas come to my head at this time. If anything, it's best to change in such a way that bishops are encouraged to be on the front lines rather than in a corner, and doing more for support than simply being a res-mule.

 

I thought about this approach as well - Zombify is such a weird debuff and restricts one of the main aspects of Bishop play in being the healing support. I like that it reduces your potion efficacy by 50% because that's a pretty unique debuff, but the combination of Seduce and Zombify basically makes the individual player helpless (outside of the avoid/shifter advantage) where a bishop would normally be able to rush in to heal.

Another thought I had was just ridding of All Cure pots as a whole to expand on the strength of a Bishop's dispel skill while increasing the learning curve for other players. Giving minibeans special actives like wdef/mdef/attack would also be interesting and might give niche plays for arch mages in casting Seal.

 

It's funny how the meta changes, Buccaneer was considered one of the worst jobs because HT was the endgame, and Bishop godly for obvious reasons. Now that PB is a thing the things have changed. I would change a lot of things about the whole balance of the game (Perhaps I'll make a post for fun talking about it) for Bishop I would make it better support overall, things like:
-Dispell healing slow and reverse, being able to heal stuns from other users but not from yourself (Avoiding Ariel stuns and healing your team would be huge)
-Angel Ray debuffing enemies so they take extra damage
Is hard to make Bishop full-time support on these kinds of bosses without having a huge change, trash the dmg they do (because they do a lot of damage to multipart bosses), and increase by a lot their utility so they are always busy and can't be muled and TBH if we go for that route is time to get them closer to how they are currently in GMS.

 

In the modern age buccs are actually pretty good at HT too now. The combination of several bucc buffs over the years, improved mechanical skill, and better strategy has brought buccs a long way.

 

They are just OK altho I will admit that now that we get to be on the left side all the time we got a bit better + the new head hitbox. I would still buff bucc a bit tho just to nail the class I want:
- Reduce the max lv of Energy Orb and Snatch both to lv 25 so we have 10 extra points so if we max MW we can max Hero's Will lol
- x2 charge on bosses instead of x1.5 and perhaps 50% stance non charged 90% stance while charged.

Other jobs still do better in HT IMO, nothing wrong with them and I can say you do want a main Bishop there to do all the support, the Defense buff is so huge you want someone at the bottom getting rid of it, and well the rest: HS, Shielding and caring of the sed target, spamming Genesis for sweet damage.

 

People need to realize that effective DPM is way more important than dummy DPM charts when it comes to ranking/class balance. :^)

 

Maybe this is dumb, idk I don’t really play bishops. But couldn’t you buff bishops damage output using a mechanic similar to elemental staff? Like timeless/reverse staff could gain a neutral or holy elemental damage bonus. That way pally could remain good, while bishops endgame damage output could be tweaked to a more respectable level.

 

Also from reading mot of this. Bishops are already the kings in many areas. They generate mesos easilly, they have an easy time grinding, they have no problems beeing invited to a party. Making these changes would just result in 20 Bishops on every run.
Bishop as it stands right now at the "overall" in MapleLegends is that they are kings, and this is why everyone makes one.
I really dont see how buffing them any further will do any good.

 

I don't think whats being suggested will make bishops more common in PB runs, it's more to reduce the incentive to mule bishops so bish mains have an easier time finding and contributing to runs.

 

bump pls before bsp mains go extinct/reroll in NLs.
Feeling the rippling effects when recruiting bishops for HT.

 

I really like where this is going...

Alternatively, IM and FPs use CL and Paralyze quite frequently during PB. Would be cool for bishops to utilize their AR's - single target. While bliz and combos (fire demon + elq) do have status effects, using this effect idea from mages, we could have AR perform debuffs on PB. Since bsp is the king of dispelling debuffs such as curse, seal etc... could even have a custom debuff chance % rate (Low - 10%?) on bosses with low duration (0.5s - 1s), requiring consistent usage of AR, giving back bosses a taste of their medicine thru a single targeted skill. Such debuffs: Curse, Seal, idk get creative? Lowers WC/MC rate?.
If AR alone debuffing is deemed too op, could even allow a chance for this debuff via skill combos similar to Fire/Ice demon + Eql/Ifrit, in this case, AR + Baha. Seeing how these skills are beams of light, it's only fair it'd cause some sort of blindness kekw.

Also, what was done in another server was to remove an individual from a bossing map if left inactive (moving/skilling) over 10s or more, reducing mules. Not a big fan but putting it out there.

 

Double Bump

 

TRIPLE BUMP BUMP BUMP

 

why are bishops just shield/ress mules during statues lol.
take off holy immune from mini beans and give them more HP.
we just did a troll 7man PB run just to test DCing issues.
and when our arch mage died (lvl 154 kek) , beans jsut flying everywhere and our bishop literally do anything.
the OP is pretty self explanatory, but right now its just shitting on active bishops who are running.

 

Trying to keep pace with the rest of the class

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