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Increase coin pouch drop rate on Pap/JC

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Mageor, Apr 30, 2022.

  1. Mageor
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    Mageor Mr. Anchor

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    First, I would like to thank everyone for taking their time to read my post. Today, I would love to start a discussion on whether we should increase the pouch drop rate of Pap and JC. (And possibly other bosses that drop pouches)

    Currently, I believe that pouch drop rates are way too low for any normal players to farm prestigious coins for their own personal use. Below I provided data collected from my daily Pap + JC runs to come up with an estimated coin pouch 1 drop rate.

    Pap pouch estimated drop rate: 15.5%
    4/17: 6x 0 pouch
    4/18: 6x 0 pouch
    4/19: 2x 0 pouch
    4/20: 6x 0 pouch
    4/21: 4x 0 pouch
    4/22: 5x 3 pouch
    4/23: 6x 0 pouch
    4/24: 6x 2 pouch
    4/25: 6x 2 pouch
    4/26: 6x 0 pouch
    4/27: 6x 1 pouch
    4/28: 6x 2 pouch
    4/29: 6x 1 pouch

    JC pouch estimated drop rate: 40%.
    4/18: 2x 1 pouch
    4/19 2x 0 pouch
    4/20 2x 0 pouch
    4/21: 2x 2 pouch
    4/22: 1x 0 pouch
    4/23 2x 2 pouch
    4/24: 2x 1 pouch
    4/25: 2x 1 pouch
    4/26: 4x 0 pouch
    4/27: 2x 0 pouch
    4/28: 2x 2 pouch
    4/29: 2x 1 pouch

    Math below varies on pouch drop rate:

    Code:
    Average coins per day from daily 2x Pap + 2x JC (assuming that you keep the whole pouch to yourself): 2*(2*0.15)+2*(2*0.4) = 2.2 coins per day
    
    Time it takes for 1 character to accumulate 100 coins: 45.45 days.
    
    Lets assume it takes 30 WS to WS+10% a perfect dragon weapon, this process will take 30 * 45.45 days = 1363.5 days = 3.73 years

    Yes, there are more ways to obtain coins via Gachapon, Zak/HT/PB, but everyone only has limited time in a day, why make it such a time gated task?

    1. Coins are 3m right now, obtaining 2.2 coins per day is an equivalent to 6.6m from bossing, IT'S TOO MUCH!
      • First of all, most average players 8~10 minutes to defeat Pap and 8~10 minutes for JC, altogether for a total of 2 * 9 minutes + 2 * 9 minutes = 36 minutes. Most of form of farming/bossing still yields higher profits.
      • Next, as more coins enter the market, the price of coins will hopefully drop.
    2. But people with multiple characters have an advantage! It's not fair that some can do 10x Pap + 10x JC a day.
      • Yes, multiple characters is a thing, but attackers unlike mages take significant more resources to make them viable attackers, therefore should be rewarded.
    Not sure what's the best solution to deal with this problem, whether it can be as simple as making the pouch drop rate higher, or having an alternative way to allow players to obtain coins through daily play, but I would love to see what can be done moving forward.

    Thank you all for your time.
     
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  2. zeroxlr
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    zeroxlr Windraider

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    I agree that P_Coin and Pouch drops need to be adjusted higher for certain bosses.

    Also, I think it'd be cool to be able to do:

    Repeatable Quest, 1 or 2 times per day limit, as an alternative for P_Coin Pouch1s:
    • maybe it can be a long farming quest (mob or etc drops)
    • above level 120 requirement
    • takes more time than bossing JC or Pap on average
     
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  3. Lucidcat
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    Lucidcat Mixed Golem

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    That's not multi-client. That's multi-account or multi-character.
     
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  4. OP
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    Mageor Mr. Anchor

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    That's correct haha. I changed it.
     

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