Tradeable Neo Tokyo chairs

Tradeable means an increased supply of chairs all around. Making everything untradeable would make more sense.
This should, however, come in conjunction with an improved drop table of sorts since NT is mostly trash still.

 

Run the content to get the chair. Simple as that.

 

Making chairs like nib and spirit of rock untradeable at this point would introduce a plethora of issues. Sure, they should have been untradeable to begin with but we are where we are now. If it was announced ahead of time that the chairs were going to be made untradeable, it could lead to drastic changes in the market value of them and negatively impact people. And if it wasn't announced, can you imagine how the people with multiple copies of the chairs on the same char would feel, or the people who had it on less ideal alts/mules or who had lent it out to friends? And even if it was announced, what about the people who are taking a break from the game? Should staff entertain tickets from players requesting for transfers of chairs?

 

I'm not going to advocate for or against making them tradeable, but will only say that making change to several other things in a system based on the premise that an outlier exists is generally not sound action. There could be merits in doing so but the basis of the argument shouldn't involve references to the tradeability of nib chair, which is not intended design.

 

Yes. This would directly be something worth addressing case by case and has a proper solution (GM assists with trade or transfer to alt account) and end (the number of tickets will inevitably go to 0).

 

Shouldn't boss chairs be untradable as a proof that you ran shit tons of that boss, or you got lucky lol.
And untradeable is the trend for all the regional boss and expedition boss chairs.

More like why nib, spirit of the rock and toad (?) boss chairs are tradeable lol.

 

its just like HP washing, an accident that cannot be fixed

 

Agreed, the tradeable boss chairs should be made untradeable (Spirit of Rock, Nibelung and both Castellan Toad chairs). This will likely help with Spirit of Rock availability too instead of the few regulars camping it.

 

i guess we can make existing chairs tradable but new chairs untradable (two different chairs)

 

I dont buy into the argument that tradeable boss chairs cannot be made untradeable. This server has made (and will continue to make) significantly more impactful changes in the name of bug fixes. I don't necessarily believe the current state to be a massive problem, but it also unclear and thus confusing for a new player to discern which chairs are tradeable vs untradeable, while simultaneously opening the door for unhealthy player interaction.

Compared to event chairs, boss chairs are *always* obtainable at any point in time. Sure a player can get unlucky in finding one (I only recently got my first NT chair myself), but they are not time limited and a new player can obtain them.

I actually dont think I like the economic implications of tradeable boss chairs. Currently, tradeable boss chairs are rolled, hardly ever split, even if they hold considerable value relative to the boss's other drops. It provides a precedent to roll other valuable drops (roll for pouch), which really only serves to obstruct community building.

I somewhat understand why players are hesitant to split boss chair profits. The currently tradeable boss chairs have a small market, and it looks like they are a pain to sell. Their market values are likely inflated for whatever reason right now, but even at realistic price points they are still among the more valuable drops in the drop table.

Not every player wants to roll large value items, especially when they know the other player doesn't actually want the item, but only wants to flip it for their sole profit. I've never understood why this was considered socially acceptable for these items in the past and do not believe this behavior would change if more boss chairs are suddenly opened up to market. Losing a nameless/dunas chair sucks, but it's ultimately a 0 value loss due to having no resale value. Compare that to losing a nib/toad roll and then seeing it listed in FM.

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