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Adjust Timeless Diesra

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by carebu, May 19, 2022.

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    carebu Brown Teddy

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    I've done some spreadsheet math and come to the conclusion that a perfect Timeless Diesra(levels included, 161wa 31str) is worse than +5 PSB even with level 200 stats/gear. IE in the best strength scaling vs attack scenario. Which means it's much worse earlier. And this is also accounting for the fact that PSB loses half of the effect of SI from being overspeed. This is in free fire attacks per minute calculations that may not be exactly accurate to tickrate/interruption considerations, but that just favors higher attack speed items anyways so PSB wins even more.

    Considering..... PSB is event gear and Diesra is Pinkbean gear, not to mention the absurdity of getting perfect timeless gear anyways. Kinda bums me out. And since the polearm weapon category is kind of a meme in of itself, I was just hoping to propose that the Diesra move up from Slow (8) to Slow (7). Gives a man something to strive for in the end game. This would bump the Diesra upto being like 2-4% better at equivalently scrolled levels on high timeless levelup rolls, only when SI is active.

    If you want me to provide the raw data I can, but it's formulated into my janky spreadsheets for gear/damage checking so I'd have to completely reformat it for readability. Plus I encourage staff to do their own math since u have the mathlord NiseNise who can probably check with more confidence of what I claim.
     
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    Eighty Windraider

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    I once considered making a decently scrolled diesra to farm CWK exchange items only to later realise that its speed was slow 8 and not slow 7. So I gave up promptly. Please show some love to diesra. I don't have numbers but I think even crimson arcglaive is better than diesra.
     
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    Its shape also needs to be adjusted. Ugliest PB weapon, an axe is put onto a bent stick.
     
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    carebu Brown Teddy

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    Yes, it would be. The difference of 4 attackspeed is like 60wa apparently. Given you have 1200~ strength.. (less str = less value of wa, so diesra is worse lower) With SI the gap narrows 1 point but it's still like a 30-40wa advantage. My numbers may be hyperbolic don't quote them, but as stated a 129 surfboard beats a 161 +20~str diesra.

    On the brightside you 127?+ surfboard or glaive owners (i forget glaive max attack idk if 129 is possible) can say you have a better than perfect timeless polearm :^) Mine's only 124, I'm a pleb
     

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