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Accepted New account gender selection modernization

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by Lirbo, May 22, 2022.

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  1. Lirbo
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    I can already see some people raging about it without me even saying anything...
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    Please add "Other" or something, it's kinda politicly wrong for 2022.
    Maybe an option to change this selection later on as well, even though it doesn't affect the game..
     
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    I agree with the concept, but I don't think the game can be programmed to take in an "Other" gender. Also it actually affects the game - which gear can the "other" genders wear?

    My understanding is that a character's gender is either 0, 1, or 2 (male, female, and other). Items that are not gendered can be worn by either gendered player.
    It wouldn't be fair to exclude the ability to wear gendered clothing for these "other" gendered characters, nor would it be fair to allow them to wear both male and female clothes.
     
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    It doesn't, it's just for the database - you can still create both Male & Female characters.. it's not about the /character/ but the information regarding the account itself.

    If there was an "Other" gender for characters that'd have been broken, everybody would have picked it and crossdressed for easy gear without having to find for your own gender.
    Which begs for the question why there's no such a thing as a Gender-Change in this game, but that's another suggestion for another time.
     
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    I believe Kim mentioned difficulties in 'fixing' this a while ago. It may or may not prove too difficult.

    However, if it *is* possible, I feel like this male/female check could (and should) just be entirely removed for being useless. If I remember correctly, there are/were other v62 servers that removed it.
     
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    You are not wrong about this one, many have removed this.
    Removing this is also an option, it doesn't really do anything aside from collecting information on the users.
    Now if it's too hard to fix? I don't know - don't think so honestly... unless we're talking about the character-gender-change here, that's another story that brings a lot of complications.
     
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    I feel like just removing it entirely is better, you can already swap in between Male and Female at character creation, its pretty much just extra "click here" before anything on a fresh account.
     
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    needs client edits and this feature is purely there to have authentic packet usage from gms. We got better things to deal with
     
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    A better option would be to just flat-out remove it if possible, it's unnecessary, especially if it has no value-added benefits in-game.
     
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    kimmy just said above why it is there ^
     
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    No. If adding this option wouldn't change anything, then this is completely and utterly redundant. Not to mention there are no biological genders besides the male and female gender. Why would you even make this suggestion, it is so redundant. And what is politically and biologically WRONG is that the 'other' option be included anywhere in existence.
     
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    You are confusing Sex with Gender.
     
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    My dude you're still living in times before Maple was even originally released
     
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    They both apply to what I stated previously. Prove me wrong - state a specific gender that isn't male or female that exists and/or originated from the world's biology. You can't, because there are none.
     
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    Times when the world made more sense.
     
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    We are not talking about biological genders, we are talking about how a person would like to identify themselves as - this is not a doctor appointment. And if somebody wouldn't like to identify as a Male or a Female that is their right to do so.

    As for the fact that it's considered low priority in the management eyes, sure that's another issue. Though I'm happy the issue received the attention it deserved.
     
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    As mentioned in the thread, this doesn't impact that stuff. It's account related, not character related.
     
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    Going to close this because it's answered and I already smell where it's going.

    Not moved to denied because it's something we can (possibly easy) implement, but we now just got more important stuff to deal with.
     
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    We wanted to do something small now as a break from the other things we are doing, so we thought about this thing today.

    Implemented for the next patch.

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    Something I kind of forgot about but when you create a character if you pick male it automatically selects "male" and if you pick female it automatically picks female at character creation. We've decided to make "other" select female as default, but you can still change it of course if you want.
     
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