Why do you boss?

well man multimage was here in the past, but no one did it, it wasn't known by ML's community. if theres a discrepancy nowadays, before it was even higher, probably, cuz there weren't PCs, right?

also, if money = exp, you should also consider your character will be making more money than the amount you have stated if its not 200 yet.

besides, we can't compare a single client guy bossing on HT daily with 10 mages farming at same time. it's broken and we all know that. we shouldnt compare a casual guy with someone aiming to perfect gears asap. the last one will be deciding for extreme ways to play to reach his goal. its like, the goal to have perfect gears isnt common for everyone. im guessing a casual player wont think about getting a perfect weapon in few months, so maybe thats not the kind of math he will be doing on his free time, and it means thats useless for a lot of players.

im curious to know exactly whats your point with this thread. its like a curiosity or do u want to suggest something? i mean, probably you got ur answers: many just boss for fun, or the community aspect, and money come in a second place, alright. if you are wanting to suggest a bossing money buff or nerf on mage farming, i agree with you.

 

we had a good update here... prestigious coins came to solve the bossing being unprofitable and also to increase the amount of ws/cs on market. but prices went even higher after that. why exactly?

 

increased demand from non-old players. They want prestigious coins to finish their weapon/CS something.
Decreased available supply.
Volatility. People who buy off tons of coins at high prices in one shot, leading to increase in prices.

 

This summarizes my bossing experience, tho I don't do HT n PB

I view ML as a social hangout game, where i chill with guildies and friends.
going for bossing is like going with irl friends for dinner. if the social experience isnt there, i don't see any strong reason for it.

 

i dont really believe that, but its a possibility. i dont think so because i feel like we have really low number of players actively playing right now, so shouldnt be a crescent thing to make it increase that much.

 

u selling ur coins? I am not selling because i am accumulating them to WS/CS my cape. The population is top heavy and everyone in the top and further top needs coins and aint really selling them (listing them for 4+m ea isnt selling). i do agree with ur feels abt the low no. of active players.

 

1. What type of player would you classify yourself as? (Casual, Sweaty, In-Between)
Casual
2. What types of bosses do you run, and why?
I tried Mano but he fcked me up. I don't really boss anymore but I did alot of Ravana, Papulatus, Zakum and CWOK sometimes.
I do rav, pap for easy money and easy exp. It's can get you to 155 quite easily if you run them 2 times daily. Zakum and CWOK I run when a run is hosted when I am available. I don't search for them nor host them myself.
They are fun bossess. I don't care about the money or exp.

So just for fun / change of pace

3. Do you also participate in mage farming/multimage farming?
Goby Farming. Beats multimage by a tenfold.
4. Leave any other comments/thoughts regarding this topic.
I don't want to.

 

1. What type of player would you classify yourself as? (Casual, Sweaty, In-Between)
Retired sweaty
2. What types of bosses do you run, and why?
Pink Bean as it`s good m/h and statues fase is challenging with mount iframe. Also, looking foward to get experienced in getting iframes on body to dodge sed musical notes.
HT once in a blue moon to test dpm. If i had more time to play, i`d run more often for the pride of getting higher dpms, but not daily for sure. Looking foward to HT on my future NL as it`s worth before 200 in terms of exp + meso.
Jiaoceng I solo a couple times every week to get coins and drops. Usually i get around 12-14m mesos every 2 jcs. When my NL gets ready to solo it, gonna be pog exp too.

3. Do you also participate in mage farming/multimage farming?
I sold a lot of duo mage 5-6 leech, but i`m retired for now so i didn`t upgrade to octamage setup.

4. Leave any other comments/thoughts regarding this topic.
I hope bossing gets buffed a bit.

 

im not selling cuz im not buying anything, but I also almost never get coins since i dont boss much now. i just think the number of ppl needing coins didnt change much from last year to now. we are talking about a increase on demand that would justify prices arouns 50% higher, even after a prestigious coins system implemented.

besides that, not only ws/cs prices went higher, which makes me believe even more it's not about the higher demand on ws/cs, but a meso making problem instead. when everyone used to leech to make mesos, we couldnt get those 40~50m/h rates. maybe something close to 40 if you had lv200s with echo and good int gears to leech at 5/6.

 

its hard to assume things like this. like, how do you know the amount of people trying to ws timeless weapon raised (compared to like 6 months ago), or that theyre trying to ws their 12/3 or 8/5 gloves now? afaik, there werent a 8/5 for months in the market, then like 2 appeared (?), and i didnt see a 12/3 for really long, personally speaking.

i mean, i just wanted to threw some thoughts, just wanted to consider some possibilities about whats going on. im not sure about what you said.

and you talk like PCs made ws/cs market worse, but i dont agree with that. people who are gachaing ws/cs do the same as before (if they need, they keep. else, they sell). and about PCs, they are a bonus, so it in any way could make things worse than before, at least in my point of view. maybe the tax thing deserves some attention, i agree on that.

and about ur last question, i doubt it would happens with fs/mw30 for long time. i dont think they will ever be that cheap.

 

in my opinion there will always exist buyers enough to pay something close to what is right now.

 

even before multimage meta started to be a relevant thing, ppl were already buying fs and mws like theres no tomorrow.

mw20 is 250m since 2 years ago at least, that was when i started. why u think a much rarer item will lose value? same thing for fs, the most op shoes in the game...

if 2 mw30 on market and 1 buyer just wait him fail first and sell the second one

 

reverting all wages to ulu2 doesn't change inflation rates in the long run. current rates of inflation also doesnt seem that bad compared to 2017-8 or (stories of) 2016 and is a direct byproduct of our demographic trends.

Edit: inflation is the change in price of a basket of goods. WS going from 120m-160m in 6 months is equal to WS going from 300m-400m in the same time. What really matters is WS generated per hour & a one time drop in wages probably won't make any effective change in the long run.