Don't dispel Hyper Body + Meso Guard

I think recast when dispelled is a pretty normal thing to do for bosses that dispel since you can distinguish dispel by animation. Adds to the mechanic I guess.

 

could u add magic guard to be indispellable as well? doesnt make sense to wash so much for content.

 

Player skill issue. Also does not alleviate the burden of washing, since you can still do those bosses without washing as is.

 

yes yes let's make the game even more easier.

 

Speaking as a bishop player here, while it makes sense to add that layer of gameplay. It prohibits unwashed mages/bishops from content that dispels often, such as HT. its one thing to have dispel mechanics and another to tell some new bishop his hp is thrash and he needs to do X,Y,Z to get it up before getting considered for runs. That would in most cases push this player to wash an attacker instead since its way more viable to be an attacker over a bishop.

 

You're not wrong to think way, but lets remember ppl can just wash to the hell, i don't agree with magic guard being immune to dispel, but meso guard definitely can receive some love, unfortunately HB non-dispelable is just too OP

 

Judging by everyone's argument, it seems like it really depends which side of the fence you really on. If you have enough hp (whether mage or non-mage), having hyper body/meso guard/magic guard being dispelled is not as big of as issue as if you didn't have enough hp. The struggle for making MapleLegends less HP washing reliant is constantly battling arguments such as its a skill issue. Though whether or not these skills are dispellable, player skills are involved. To reach high-efficiency dpm, many buffs are necessary (booster/mw/si/se). Whether or not this single survivability buff makes up the crux of the player skill is highly debatable.

 

Q: What remains after we ensure that everyone has HB?
A: The amount of damage you deal to bosses, which indicates how long it takes to kill the boss.
It really comes into the point towards whether we want to improve our characters to have a faster kill time on bosses.

I'm not really a big fan of dispel mechanics in any game to be honest, yet I'm up for bosses having dispel mechanics as long as they are telegraphed quite clearly before they do so and attack after a certain time of their dispel animation, giving players enough opportunity to cast their protection spells. (mg, hb, mg etc.)

But maybe they do that, I'm new so idk...

 

Meso guard def needs its duration increased. Was actually a little surprised that didn't happen in this patch since it seemed like an obvious QoL/buff that nobody should have an issue with. It could be exploited with sed mules though, I guess.

 

I think a case can be made for HB being undispellable. If you rely on HB to survive a boss, ultimately it is out of your control whether your DK uses HB in time or not. Meso guard maybe too because if you are required to tank touch damage there are some situations you cannot react to a dispel in time.

With magic guard you will rarely be touching the boss so you have a lot of time to react to the DP animation, that should remain dispellable at the very least imo

 

After HB is made undispellable, the next step will be to increase the duration to 2 hours so that if your DK disconnects you are still good to go. Then we will truly have HP washing optional.

 

After it's 2 hours, next step is to give all characters HB at all times !!

 

You can kill the left head first and youll be fine with dispels

 

Playable Bishop HT thresholds are super achievable and people that tell you otherwise have unreasonable standards. Perfect frames suck, but there’s legit like a 5k HP gap between being able to HT on a Bishop (mid-low 2k) and 100% surviving perfect frames (roughly 7k): the rest of that difference is about personal comfort and margin of error.

Am on the side of player skill/choice here: you can wash your character as much or as little as you want, but those consequences are your own as well.

 

how about 6man? would u take a 2k hp bishop to 6man ht?

 

yeah. You just need to start from left head

 

If they know how to live and can do their job, yes. They have less margin for error than other Bishops, but you can still survive every non-perfect frame, which any Bishop below 7k will die from anyway.

Perfect frames are also impossible once one of Left Head or Wings die. Left Head more lethal for lower HP Bishops, but even moderately washed ones can do just fine once Wings can no longer buff damage.