Evaluating the coin efficiency of Mysterious Pouch 4 (Poverty Dragon)

Wait, PB is supposed to drop pouches? #BeingUnluckyIsNotABug

 

The analysis for pink bean is incorrect, because it assumes that for every 1 pouch you get from horntail / zak, you get 2 pouches from pink bean. But pink bean can drop 0, 1, or 2 pouches. Probably best to just exclude it since we don't know the probability of of each scenario for bean.

 

Personally I've found collecting meaningful data around personal progress through bossing coins to be quite difficult. You could try to track pouch drop rate for each attempted boss, but the added RNG of opening the pouch creates variance, and each run doesn't get split between runners consistently all the time either (different number of runners, sometimes you win rolls, sometimes you lose rolls).

I think coin generation rates could use a bit of tweaking here and there, and this could come in either a pouch drop drop rate tweak or a coin value tweak. I wouldn't even mind just increasing the range in which pouches could drop - Pouch 3 dropping 10-25, Pouch 4 dropping 20-40, Pouch 5 80-110 etc.

 

HT pouch definitly needs a buff to either the coins, or the rate the pouch drops. HT is just much much more effort compare to a zak run, but the coins doesn't say anything about it.

If you are really want to farm coin at zak, you can run 3man or even 2man by slapping additional attackers onto the zak body. It is literally the easiest boss to multi client in the same.
And you can have a really good coin/hr rate at zak.

 

For what it's worth.. started recording drops recently.

 

Woah you’ve been really lucky in zak and pb (and ht I guess haha)

 

I have a similar spreadsheet that tracks my bossing attempts day-by-day (will post when I get home in a few hours). The main drawback is it doesn't take into consideration the variance of the larger expeditions (Zak and Horntail) and how they can different in composition sizes (Zak trio, Zak 6 man, HT 6 man, HT 10-12 man), so the data set gets skewed sometimes.

Edit:
My spreadsheet:

 

Looking for rate to be buffed? Must be your first day here son.

 

You know, just because you vote for something doesn't mean it actually happens.

Otherwise you could get a min vote required from just about anywhere to pass whatever you wanted.

 

a 7k hp bishop, especially one that 1 hits the wyverns, is probably too far along the investment curve for 6 man ht

 

Gotta go back to the 2018/2019 HT meta where you had low HP bishops for 6man runs.

 

1. Extreme scarcity of washed bishops (no multivote meant people usually only washed their main character)

2. Different HT mechanics (no triple seduces, no double dp, defense up didn't cut your damage in half, wyverns did not get spammed, mass seduce not spammed) meant that even if your bishop died, the run could probably still finish.

3. Dex bucc and HH mule made runs a lot easier.

In the current era, you could kill this head before the other two so that dispel is less punishing to your bishop.