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Legends players and GTOP - NX withdrawal symptoms

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by akashsky, Jan 4, 2023.

  1. akashsky
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    GTOP is currently broken and no votes can go through (1/4/2023).

    In this post I want to discuss a hypothetical scenario where gtop never fixes their website, and we lose this source of nx income forever.

    How long would players be willing to accept such losses before we see riots on the streets? At what point would it be time to move away from having a third party site be the main source of a vital in game resource?

    Here I want to discuss the alternatives we currently have in a hypothetical world where GTOP no longer provides us with our nx.

    1) Vote on TOPG (a knock off of gtop that only rewards 500 nx). Not viable in terms of nx / effort reward. Potentially could resolve the issue by boosting this to 6500 nx. But do we really want to stay dependant on a third party website? What if TOPG does the same thing as GTOP?

    2) Do party quests to get nx from the bonus stages. CWKPQ gives on average 187 nx per box. Given that a normal 5 man run takes like 45mins and you get like 6 boxes, this is only 1.5k nx per hour, not enough to replace the current gtop progression.

    3) Multiclient farm maps like damp forest. This is probably the only viable solution to get nx if no changes are made. The problem is that it would require insane character investment and would alienate all non sweaty players from progressing. It looks like you can get around 3.9k nx per hour with this strat, so with like 2 hours of gameplay you can match the GTOP passive pace.

    Do you think changes are needed or should everyone interested in heavy wash projects settle into the multiclient farm meta?

    Or will the challenge system save us all to the point where we don't really need nx?
     
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    You mean, you peeps have not just been needlessly hording your votecash awaitng the inevitable market crash?
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    When stocks plummet ima make billions selling smega/owl services.
     
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    Jexxler Red Snail

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    im actually able to vote. Just not awarded Nx for some reason.
     
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    Also not awarded today to me... Isn't that happened only for me? Isn't it?
     
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    Happened to me also. Gtop took my vote but no NX and I'm gonna lose my vote streak.
     
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    Nightz Supervisor Staff Member Supervisor Game Moderator

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    Vote streaks are frozen so you won't be losing it.
    We hope that GTOP will continue their efforts in fixing the current issues so everyone can obtain NX again soon.
     
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    Just wanna say happened to me too, voted but no NX, then i voted again (after a few hours, vote went in again but no NX again.)
    Just to let u guys know, that it happen again today same shit.
     
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    I see this "what if" scenario as two different questions:

    If GTOP voting becomes an unreliable source of NX...

    A.) ...what are the consequences to the game if no existing systems are changed?

    B.) ...is there a better system that could be put in place?

    Loosing a reliable source of NX would have broad impacts on every player who's either planning to, or in the process of washing a character. I feel like it's safe to say that's a large percentage of the dedicated player base. We'd likely see many abandoned characters, or players re-evaluate their plan in favor of the in-development hp washing alpha.

    Then we have to ask the question - is there a better solution for the community? The current GTOP system is done to encourage new players discovering the joining the game. The reliance on NX, is undeniable coupled with the requirement to buy AP Resets as part of washing. So any possible solution to new solution would have to account for solving both sides: a.) help new players discover the server, and b.) help existing players with washing (or washing alternative) their characters.

    IMO: Exploring question B is more a more interesting train of thought.
     
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    For the time being make a quick fix and just put the Nx from red Kimmy to blue Kimmy either this or make more mages/dk's or maybe give players that log in the amount of nx red Kimmy would give everyday while gtop fix their website
     
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    rip red kimmy.png
     
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    8x vote events when :V
     
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    It works smoothly again since yesterday for me.
    The terrible thing about GTOP is their monopoly, try googling anything related to MS Private Servers without having them in your first result.
    This monopoly is power, and they know Private Servers owners are pretty much depending on them, so what's the rush? They got no other viable alternatives to advertise their servers anyway.
     
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    A lot of people are getting the vote message success on GTOP end, but not actually getting awarded nx in game. You were able to get nx in game? You can check this by logging into your ML account on the website and checking the time since your last vote.
     
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    Can someone update me when its fixed?
     
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    just turn off/on internet and you will see that u able to vote again and vote dont cont
     
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    This is truly a catastrophic event that needs to be taken much more seriously!
    I will never ever be able to level up again.
    I can't farm enough nx to buy enough charms to cover the 10+ deaths a week I face due to being viciously bullied by the statue sed + 1/1 wombo combo in pink bean
     
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  18. LeonardoJF
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    it will be a good deal to appear since its offline for all server, the triunfal back
     
  19. fartsy
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    the solution is more snowman events!!
     
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    I recall some players were given some ~50k in NX for participating in a gm event, perhaps it can be extended to everyone in these strange and unusual times
     
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