Add a damage ranking system in bosses

like this idea to show the state of class balance and prove that this thread is right.
https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/state-of-archers.50199/

 

I don't think it's a bad idea, but it can prove frustrating for some players. Also don't forget damage isn't everything. Each class contributes to the boss-fight in its own way with different utility.

 

You can still use the dpm thread for it.

 

DPM meters in Maple Story wouldn't have the same intencive as it has in other MMORPGs.

Other games have similiar progression for each character and different balancing motives. For example, in most mmo's there's a fixed character level along with every item having the same stats with others, except certain enchantments which is a player crafting thing and everyone would have it anyway.

For Maple, things are a bit different. We scroll our equipment which requires much more resoruces than other games, meaning everyone would be on a different scale than others. This also goes with level, which skills you leveled first etc. etc.

We also shouldn't forget that a lot of players don't play this game for obtaining the most DPM values. As explained above by others, many people are in this for their own fun.

If we add a DPM list at the end of expeditions, we could start seeing a class shift, player demotivaion and a lot of optimization precautions for this already very unbalanced game.

The initial game design of maple story isn't really a great foundation for its diverse gameplay opportunity.

On the other hand, there are people who would like to see how they perform, motivate themselves, get insight from other players and improve themselves. That's exactly why we have the DPM thread in the first place. If you want to achieve these, I'd suggest motivating others with a similiar mindset into doing it. Noone is against improving the expedition aspect of the game, but there are ways to do it without breaking others and I suggest doing it, but not this.


also this...

...sounds like a "you" issue tbh.

 

Why are we saying damage isn't everything as if the bishop and dk aren't the first classes to be replaced by mules explicitly due to lower damage?

 

no one must know my 4mil dpm. Wait, shit.

 

Don’t forget the greatest class of them all, shadowers

 

I can see this being useful, but only if it can also be turned off before a run even starts from, say, the run host or something along those lines. Not all bossing is being done with the same intent, and features like this, if mandatory, can skew bossing more towards "optimal" playing even for bossing that's being done as something more for inclusiveness rather than pushing for the extremes.

To use an earlier example in this thread, if someone's doing a 30-player PB attempt open to any newcomer, then this should be able to be turned off for that because that's not the sort of thing they're looking for when doing that.

I think there's less of a risk of this fracturing the community, because there are already plenty of people who care about things like DPS and whatnot as it is. Hell, we already have an in-game command for DPS checking. I can see this being useful to those sorts of bossing attempts, but I wouldn't want to see this forcing DPS comparisons for people whose goals have nothing to do with it. After all, there are multiple ways to play this game; we shouldn't force a mechanic like this that emphasizes one particular way of playing, on everyone.

 

People are too soft for this to be implemented which is why I'm against it. I wanna make sure everyone feels welcome

 

I've seen some cases of some people using high att pot to impress the parties, I think this could turn out to be a boring thing

 

It's already easy enough to guesstimate DPM based off class and level

Outside of the minority of players who willingly compete for DPM, in practice this feature would only be used to call out apple skimpers and stoners

 

You say that like it's a bad thing :^)

 

Apple skimping should qualify under mass griefing, so a way to weed them out would be a good thing.

 

always thought its nice idea
I think it will make ppl more :

• motivate
• let them see diff and where they standing where its come to dpm
• active in runs and give more effort

I can see where its can be harmful and invites bullying but I think its a nice info to share in the pt , maybe a toggle option can solve it all .