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Bottomwear for Dex (and all its flavors)

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Ainz, Oct 27, 2023.

  1. Ainz
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    Hi everyone,

    As of now, Bottomwear for Dex scrolls (10, 30, 60, 70, and even 100%) have two variants. One version gives speed alongside the Dex, the other gives accuracy. Off the top of my head, this isn't the case for any other set of scrolls.

    This leads to confusion, unnecessary owls, debate on whether or not one should be more valuable than the other, etc.
    (Spoiler alert; yes, accuracy variant should be more valuable)

    Anywho, I suggest resolving this situation by removing the speed variant (while potentially rebalancing the drop situation by adding the accuracy variant to the mobs that dropped the speed variant).

    I don't think the problem of 'legacy gear' really is a tremendous issue here. One might argue that they will no longer be able to obtain speed on their bottoms, but speed is generally fairly easy to come by and it's not like these speedy legacy bottoms (marvelous term) will give players a notable advantage.

    As always, thanks for reading! Feel free to discuss below.
     
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    Do you also want to elaborate as to why you think the speed variant should be removed over the accuracy variant? While I can think of some reasons, your suggestion doesn't seem to include any.
     
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    remove the accuracy variant. death to all warriors.
     
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    Thieves have no need for speed or accuracy. What relevant classes even use bottomwear?
     
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    Oooops you're right. Mostly because the accuracy is actually useful whereas the speed hardly is.
    Removing the accuracy variant feels more like a general nerf to warriors, which I don't think is necessary or sensible.

    Intuitively I also feel like accuracy is a more thematically sound match for dex, but there's probably scrolls to raise as a counter argument to that.
     
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    odd jobs could use them. hasteless thieves? intlords need accuracy too
     
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    For thieves the accuracy only really finds a use at CB for hitting the chandelier while speed is useful at any boss that dispels (which is alot). Not gonna go into off meta builds but surely they find a use there aswell.

    How about simply renaming the scrolls to make a better distinction?
     
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    you are the devil incarnate rogmushrogmushrogmushrogmush
     
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    Yes, speed is indeed very useful. However, given that warriors and thieves are realistically the only classes that need these scrolls (and thieves don't particularly lack accuracy) I mostly wrote this from the perspective of warriors.
    If a warrior doesn't hit 140 speed from their pet equips, idk what to tell ya, it's very easy to come by. The accuracy serves warriors far better.
     
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    So we need to rename to bottom for accuracy and bottom for speed scrolls OR remove one of them
     
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    Remove both
     
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    why remove, just rename
     
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    Merge them so each gives both?
     
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