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Increase NPC price of Timeless Conrad Henkel

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by mard, Dec 3, 2023.

  1. mard
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    mard Mixed Golem Retired Staff

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    I propose that the NPC price of timeless conrad henkels be increased from 20,000 mesos to 170,000 mesos, as I believe that the current NPC price is likely a mistake.

    https://maplelegends.com/lib/equip?id=1002780 shows that it gets NPC'd for 20,000 mesos but the Reverse Conrad Henkel npc's for 170,000 mesos https://maplelegends.com/lib/equip?id=1002794.

    For comparison, the warrior helms (timeless and reverse fennel respectively) both npc for 320,000 mesos, the magician helms (timeless/reverse coral) both npc for 170,000 mesos, the thief helms (timeless/reverse chive) both npc for 190,000 mesos, and the bowman helms (timeless/reverse rapido) both npc for 170,000 mesos.

    Based on the other class helms, it seems like both pirate helms should NPC for equal values but the timeless pirate helmet NPCs for much less than the reverse counterpart.
     
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  2. bienfu
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    bienfu Pac Pinky

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    Wait... hold on...

    These level 150 end game items that are very very difficult to achieve...

    We want their NPC-sell prices to be increased to make their worthless value a fraction less worthless as opposed to REDESIGNING END GAME ITEMS TO BE VIABLE END GAME ITEMS?

    For god's sake, I hope the staff get their priorities straight and instead of just making these shitty helmets just a little better NPC-fodder that theyre actually viable freaking items.
     
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  3. ryanlights
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    ryanlights Windraider

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    Pyogo Mushroom to 100k too please (from 10k)
     
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  4. bienfu
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    bienfu Pac Pinky

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    You know what, I'll even do all the hard work cuz it aint that hard to make useless items better.

    Timeless Fennel-
    Current stats:
    STR: 7 (6 - 8)
    Weapon Def: 120 (110 - 130)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 7

    Proposed stats:
    STR: 20 (18 - 22)
    DEX: 18 (16 - 20)
    INT: 7 (5 - 9)
    LUK: 7 (5 - 9)
    Weapon Def: 300 (280 - 320)
    Magic Def: 100 (90 - 110)
    Accuracy: 24 (22 - 26)
    Speed: 7 (6 - 8)
    Number of Upgrades: 8

    Timeless Rapido-
    Current Stats:
    STR: 3 (2 - 4)
    DEX: 7 (6 - 8)
    HP: 30 (27 - 33)
    Weapon Def: 75 (67 - 83)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 7

    Proposed stats:
    STR: 18 (16 - 20)
    DEX: 20 (18 - 22)
    INT: 7 (5 - 9)
    LUK: 7 (5 - 9)
    Weapon Def: 210 (190 - 230)
    Magic Def: 150 (130 - 170)
    Avoidability: 24 (22 - 26)
    HP: 120 (110 - 130)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 8

    Timeless Conrad Henkel-
    Current stats:
    STR: 6 (5 - 7)
    DEX: 6 (5 - 7)
    Weapon Def: 75 (67 - 83)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 7

    Proposed Stats:
    STR: 19 (17 - 21)
    DEX: 19 (17 - 21)
    INT: 7 (5 - 9)
    LUK: 7 (5 - 9)
    Weapon Def: 240 (220 - 260)
    Magic Def: 120 (100 - 140)
    Accuracy: 24 (22 - 26)
    Jump: 7 (6 - 8)
    Number of Upgrades: 8

    Timeless Chive-
    Current stats:
    DEX: 4 (3 - 5)
    LUK: 6 (5 - 7)
    HP: 30 (27 - 33)
    Weapon Def: 75 (67 - 83)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 7

    Proposed stats:
    STR: 6 (5 - 7)
    INT: 6 (5 - 7)
    DEX: 18 (16 - 20)
    LUK: 20 (18 - 22)
    Weapon Def: 150 (130 - 170)
    Magic Def: 210 (190 - 230)
    Avoidability: 24 (22 - 26)
    MP: 120 (110 - 130)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 8

    Timeless Coral-
    Current Stats:
    INT: 7 (6 - 8)
    LUK: 5 (4 - 6)
    MP: 25 (22 - 28)
    Weapon Def: 60 (54 - 66)
    Magic Def: 90 (81 - 99)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 7

    Proposed Stats:
    STR: 6 (5 - 7)
    DEX: 6 (5 - 7)
    INT: 20 (18 - 22)
    LUK: 18 (16 - 20)
    Weapon Defense: 100 (90 - 110)
    Magic Defense: 300 (280 - 320)
    Magic Attack: 3 (2 - 4)
    Avoidability: 24 (22 - 26)
    Number of Upgrades Available: 8

    Man look how easy that was to come up with new numbers, weaker than Auf Haven, not much stronger than Zhelms or Scar Helms, their stat profile is unique and suited to the needs of each classes, CHOP CHOP COME ON STAFF LETS JUST MAKE THIS HAPPEN INSTEAD OF JUST INCREASING. NPC. SELL. PRICE.
     
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  5. Ferluci
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    Ferluci Zakum Retired Staff

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    pls stay ontopic this thread is about increasing npc price.

    i agree
     
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    I mean.. Yeah looks good. I do not understand Neckson's original vision with this. Such a flawed game.
     
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    Aren't these strictly better than Auf helmets? Max base stat now becomes 47, even if you only land 60s/70s for the remaining 8 slots it's now a 63 stat helm which is better than the typical Auf helmet (which is around 60 stat, and will cost on average a few hundred mill to produce even if you're not buying service). Add in the ability to Chaos, 30%, or even WS10 and you're looking at a ceiling of 71 stat or 73 stat with a single CS.

    Given the hordes of stockpiles of these sitting around and the fact that you can purchase them, added on to the fact that you no longer have to run Auf, these would more or less just make Auf irrelevant as they're both more accessible and are easier to break 60 stat with.

    Edit: I lied, you can get TWO stats per level which pushes the base stat total to 52 stat over 47. Meaning 60s and 70s now becomes a 68 stat and total ceiling becomes a 76/78 stat. These would be insanely broken.
     
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  8. bienfu
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    bienfu Pac Pinky

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    i almost forgot they leveled up. Anyhow, there are no Helm Str or Helm Luk scrolls so in that regard Auf is better for main stat, but I do suppose Dex and Int versions would be better than Auf
     
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    Auf is already irrelevant :cool:
     
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  10. Motto
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    Can't they just be made non sellable? for safety lol
    (I sold a reverse by mistake lul)
     

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