4th Job Warrior Quality of Life? UwU

Because warriors are poo poo.

In the past, we could have justified the warrior class placements in low-tier rankings because they were seen as entry-level classes - or classes that were effective without much start up funding or NX - which were best suited for new players. However, with the challenged system coming out allowing new players to pick any class they want, the previous justifications for disparity between the classes have become moot.

 

I partly agree with what -ovv said,
But I would like to see something related to mobility and accuracy after the challenge, perhaps

TKDumont
I have to disagree with several points in your statement, maybe if you're a new player you're not used to it, but yes, hero and dk are better cleaves than paladin in cwk, even out of a sense of justice, but paladin is far from bad there.
and also, although the paladin doesn't have a skill buff, there will always be room for you as an nt pinner

 

Sorry this was more or less talking about the limited content that Warriors are Recruited/sought after for vs reality. I understand where Warriors are good in Cleave Fights, but it's the other content they start falling off in[/QUOTE]

Yes, I understand, just to explain a little about

 

Did this balance team member just suggest a NL buff?

 

Move si to heros to fix world hunger

 

Would be a massive MM/Corsair nerf.

 

IMO something like this could be cleanly resolved with new items

I had suggested this before to mixed reactions but I'll put it out there again: I really think the meta can support a Fast-4 2H sword higher than lv.35, and IMO there are some compelling reasons for it:

• Brandish actually has different animations (and sound effects) depending on 1H and 2H. If you just want to chill and grind on your Hero, you either have to deal with slow attacks, SI mule, or having the 1H animation. It doesn't sound like much, but really aesthetics is like the main advantage of Hero. To make an analogy, imagine if you're playing Bowmaster but if you're not using the Crimson Arclancer then your Hurricane is replaced with MM's Strafe. That's pretty much what the Brandish interaction is like
• Pally's ACB range is based on the weapon. If you've tried to 7F with a 1H sword on a Pally, it sucks. Interesting trivia: Not all swords are equal even if they take the same number of hands, for example Japanese Map has shorter reach than Claymore
• It doesn't need to be a metabreaking weapon; It can be lv.90 and slot below Claymore/ST on the power scale. Yes, Lionheart does exist, but it's too weak unless you have like 60 bonus w.Att between your Gloves/Cape/Shoes. A ~lv 90 weapon won't change the end game sword market but its niche would be reason enough to farm it
• It can be a grindable reward from non-meta content

 

2026 Year of the Hero

 

I used the Japanese Map (level 50) to level up in 3rd job when I was grinding my hero.

 

Not only are these previous justifications outdated, they're actively in conflict with the current design of "endgame." The fact that pretty much all endgame bosses are at least somewhat balanced around the expected presence of warriors in the comp (Hero/Paladin in CB/Auf and DrK in PB) means that there should, on some level, be incentive for players to actually make and play these classes. These classes are needed, but as can clearly be seen by any recruitments post or by talking to any host, there's definitely a lack in population in comparison to things like Night Lords.

 

As a dark knight there is a couple of things i'd like to see.

First off i think pales and hero's have plenty of weapons that have a faster speed and skill animations than drks. Sure they don't have skills that are beneficial in the late game like rage/hb (sometimes) but overall they should be wrecking balls of dmg for every party, so still very useful to me.

Drk's on the other hand i feel like get somewhat shafted. Yes we got a tweak with zerk, but there's still that grey area where drk's get the higher dmg but slower weapons. The weapons for drks (spear) are usually slow to normal vs pole arm, but there aren't that many content driven pole arm drk's. Maybe give some more breathing room for dry and maybe increase the speed of the base att by a % based on the amount of hp you have. lower the hp, the higher the dmg and slight speed boost. So a slow(7) spear could zerk to a normal speed spear. Something like that.