Low ICE DEMON skill bug

Not sure if this is a bug or just a consequence of how the skill functions.

From my understanding, the demon skills behind the scenes work by essentially applying a brand new weakness chart to the enemy inflicted, assuming they aren't Fire/Ice strong or immune. As opposed to just simply giving the mob an ice/fire weakness alongside their existing elemental chart.

So Fire Demon changes the mob's chart to: weak to ice, and neutral to everything else.
And Ice Demon changes the mob's chart to: weak to fire, and neutral to everything else.

Which is why you can remove weaknesses, and even resistances and immunities, on a mob.

 

I swore this was a feature of the skill

 

This is not a bug, it's the intended way of how it should work.

It's why arch mages have a summon of the opposite element from their fire/ice demon skill, so they can do "good dmg" against whatever mobs they face.

 

The point of leaving it neutral for all elements has always been like this, I remember in around 2009 that people used it to poison mobs that were immune to poison,
about removing the monster's weakness
when the monster was already weak for that, it is confused

 

yep, in theory ice demon change the element to ice, and fire to fire, so, remove poison/light/holy strong is normal, maybe the bug is an bad interaction when you use ice in ice, fire in fire

 

yes, I'm know about the description, I'm just saying how it has always worked since the 4th job was released in GMS

 

Vulnerable does not mean weakness. A mob having a neutral resistance to fire is also vulnerable to that element.

The skill does what's described and more.

 

Vulnerability literally does mean weakness, both in this game's skill description and many other games as well. Ice demon makes a mob "vulnerable to fire" in its description and it does exactly that mechanically too.

It wasnt explained the best, but this thread exists because demons additionally change other elemental affinities than the one listed (the ice and lightning resistances in ice demon for example). While we can pretend to know what neckson's intent was and define things as not bugs and leave it at that, these do come with balancing implications. For example, ice weak mobs can only be hit by ice demon once for super effective damage, making it an even worse skill to use in seemingly "optimal" scenarios.

But also, why is mage using anything other than ult?

 

I'm not getting into what the original intentions were with the skill or what anything means for game balance, I'm simply responding to OP who leaned into the language alot.

English is only my third language so I might be wrong but imo if you have for example a mob that is immune to fire damage and you use a skill to make it neutral to fire damage you have made it vulnerable, simple as that.