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Marauder- Energy Blast buff

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Fruc, Jun 16, 2015.

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    Fruc Horny Mushroom

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    As pointed out in this post by KurayamiLove:
    http://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/marauder-job-improve.2288/

    Marauder needs an improvement, none of the 3rd job attack skills contribute to mobbing at all. I don't ever remember the 2 second delay on Energy Blast and I used to spam that skill on GMS (pre Big-Bang).

    Since the delay is unremovable, is it possible to give this skill a buff? From hitting 4 mobs to 6 mobs? Increase damage to 550%?

    Check out this video, this is what I remembered in terms of delay for Energy Blast.


    This is what it is and compared to flash fist:
     
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    From a first time marauders perspective, training with le bubble clap is great - even with a delay. If you couple it with a kick the two skills pair up pretty well.
    Backstab could be polished up a pinch.

    As for Kurayamis suggestion - enabling normal skills so we can use them while transformed...
    Navi, learn how to hex edit pls :]
     
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    Playing for nostalgia, so comparing to GMS everything reminds me of old maple, but energy blast. I used energy blast quite heavily to level up and seeing it nerfed hit me the wrong way. I never got to Bucc before big bang, and never used the transformation + skills until I made a thunder breaker.
     
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    On mine perspective all the third job went around that skill the dmg is good and even if it only hits 4 monsters is a really good skill that even at 4th job is a nice skill to use, the best way to use with a delay is combinig it with a backspinblow to stun enemies and deal masive dmg with stun mastery or combo energy blast>somersault>energy blast etc..
    The buffs that this skill reciver pre bb wheere being spameable and the second buff wash being able to stun with this skill.
    Overall its an awesome skill if yoi know how to use it, the only skill that personally needs a buff is tranform and super transform, i would like to being able to use any skill during it.
    Have a good day and if you need any suport tell me :D
     
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    Since no patch notes can be found about the marauder and buccaneer changes made later on, i found these videos to give an idea.

    So this one is v0.63 with Magatia released. Does not use energy blast to show delay, and use skills under transformation.


    Earliest video of a bucc using skills in transformation. This is v0.72 when ToT was released. Buccs don't get super transformation until 14x though so skill under transformation was probably allowed earlier.


    I believe the energy blast delay was removed before the release of Cygnus Knights (v0.73) but I can't find a marauder or bucc using that skill before the release of Cygnus Knights. Marauder videos are super rare.

    Well that's the best of my detective work... I'm starting to accept how bad marauder is since I'm going to be a buccaneer soon. I can forget about this shit journey.

    EDIT: Also clarifying, Transformation =/= Super Transformation. In the skill description the 3rd job transformation has restrictions, but Super Transformation does not have restrictions under its description.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2015
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    Well if navi can add it it would be good if it cant still ok u need to get used to it
     
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    Well there's this, as far as patch notes go:
    1. Pirate job skills revised
      1. Outlaw skill “Flamethrower” and “Ice Splitter” attack range increased.
      2. Viper skill “Dragon Strike”; delay after using this skill decreased.
      3. Viper skill “Barrage”; delay after using this skill decreased.
      4. Viper skill “Energy Blast”; delay after using this skill decreased.
      5. Captain skill “Rapid Fire” damage increased to 170% based on master level.
      6. Captain skill “Battleship”; when battleship is disabled, waiting time is changed to 90 seconds for all to ride again.
      7. While using Viper skill “Transformation”, can use all skills except for “Oak Barrel,” “Double Fire,” “Demolition” and “Snatch”.
      8. While using Viper skill “Super Transformation,” can use all skills except “Oak Barrel” and “Double Fire”.
      9. Viper skill “Energy Orb”, extra damage added.
    From http://maple.asiasoftsea.com/news_events/view/patch_notes_for_version_072/

    I know this doesn't really help at all but they did announce that they changed these things.
     
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    I couldn't find a GMS annoucement, but good catch. So it all happened in V.072.
     
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    I remeber while decreasing the dragon strike delay they decreased it max dmg from 810% to 710% but well u could go sorscrew-dragon strike all the time o.o
     

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