The true reasons behind the lack of popularity of this class

I have a sair that I play casually when I'm bored because I like the class. I always main a bishop but a sair is obviously completely different so it provides a nice break.

Overall, damage wise, until 4th job sairs suck. 3rd job they start to get better but they don't truly shine until 4th job. Kinda ironic that a class with arguably the weakest damage early game becomes the #1 dps late game. Also perfecting an end-game wepon sucks for a sair as well since 30%s m aren't a thing and white scrolls being so rare.

 

1. the 4th job dps you refer to is very ship-dependant. maintaining ship uptime is fun at first (well, not even at first), but its a lot of micromanagement and gets very tedious in long buss runs. If you can't maintain 70-80% ship up time, DPS becomes inferior to NLs.

2. these guys are a pain in the ass to level up in 2nd and 3rd job. you'll get laughed at if you try to look for a ws/himes party as an outlaw.

 

As someone who maimed corsair in a similar low rate server the largest problem with the class is that their early game is so abysmally bad, makes their late game really not worth it. The dps difference from other top classes isn't really large enough for most people to warrant the struggle that is the first 120 levels.

For the first 120 level a your pretty much a mediocre bowman, with all the range limitations and none of the easy farming.

Their single target shop dps, although good is just too reliant on n perfect shop control. And they aren't the world's greatest mobbers even post 4th job.

The class is wonderful and fun. However it's not really good compared to the other explorers. So people tend to overlook them. I wouldn't say that people hate them so much as people know they're weak and just don't pay them.

Typed this from my phone please ignore any mistakes.

 

Because NL is life.


Seriously though, its just that as redwine stated, if you can't maintain the ship, its not worth.

Plus with SE & TT30, Nightlords are absolute Gods when funded. Yet I think sairs out dmg them if they can manage to get SI.

tldr;
NL = Train
Sair = Tunnel

 

I'm probably a minority on this view but reason #4 is one of the things that made Corsairs appealing for me on GMS. I really enjoy the freedom of playing without having to buff others.

On the other hand, I don't really see the point of this thread. I don't think this class is "hated". Ease of play is something to consider. They ARE weak compared to other ranged classes in the beginning (without funds) but the bigger issue is that training them to 4th job is both difficult and tedious for most players. Cleric/Priests/Bishops are so popular because they can rake in money but also because they are (relatively) easy to play and to level up. As for the other range classes, archers have an easier time mobbing early in 2nd job than Gunslingers. Thieves have haste which is more reliable and easier to control than dash and they are much stronger. I don't think people hate Gunslingers. There are just many easier alternatives.

 

Being a hero I don't have to give buffs and I love it...
Unless some nub wants rage
But nobody wants rage

 

No one wants rage Ryan, no one.

 

Believe it or not I have been asked for rage quite a few times.
But I just say no

 

Ok since im the last Highier lvl sair still active let me tell you why there is so few of us. I know have cancer getting my outlaw to 102. There just so weak early on that its just not fun to play. They only get strong around lvl 80 plus the places you can grind are very limited.

 

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I personally just don't feel like learning a new class. It's not that it'd be super hard, I just know what I know already and go off that cuz it's easier.

 

Agree with KOSEM. Anyone willing to play corsair is going to have to accept that they will be handicapped. I can think of very few instances tho where you'd rather have a corsair over a NL. Maybe if all you do wanna do is solo bigfoots, but other than that, NLs just seem superior. Dmg is similar, party buffs, better utility with meso-up/dark sight/haste/flash jump, don't have to deal with ship.

Also let's remember that corsairs are not godly once they hit 120. Battleship will have 4k hp, will get 2 hit by skeles, and then you're back to using the same old skills you've been using for the past 50 levels. It's not until you're 140ish with maxed cannon and ~50k in ship hp that you'll really see things come together.

I am a fan of the corsair class. You just have to accept that it's hard and shitty.

 

^this so much
ship hp is cancer.

pls.

crusader have more useless skills.

i agree, under perfect conditions (bosses that don't attack often) corsairs will have the edge and at bosses like zakum they will most likely deal as much damage as a nl (more if it's a skilled corsair).

i like the class because they have a very fun and versatile kit. not a class for everyone but definitely worth a try.