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Steal skill doesn't work on LPQ Ratz

Discussion in 'Closed/Resolved' started by mettzi, Nov 3, 2015.

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    I'm making this thread for a friend since he doesn't have a forum account.

    My friend is a bandit and he maxed steal. The only reason he maxed it was so he could steal passes from Ratz in LPQ, which was a feasible tactic in GMS and pretty much the only application for it as it does nothing else. I believe it should be fixed since this is how it was in GMS and creates an interesting dynamic where steal bandits can be a substitute for a mage (for the extra pass); doesn’t create a problem anyway since it’s a completely niche ability to have.

    edit: Woops I meant to post this in bug reports. My bad!
     
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    RIP skill points, I don't see this happening buddy .
     
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    Assuming this is for smuggling reasons; each of our NPC's take away all the extra passes, so even if this method worked, you would not be able to smuggle with them.

    Nor would I agree with this feature to be added.
     
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    I don't think steal is supposed to work? Every LPQ has to complete with no extra passes. So I am thinking every ratz either has a 0% drop rate or a 100% drop rate. That, and the fact that once you steal an item, you can't get it again from killing the mob, it wouldn't really make a difference.

    Maybe it would work in LMPQ?
     
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    Someone is free to give me any site, etc where its listed you could do this with steal though.
     
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    It shouldn't be defined as smuggling, as smuggling is an exploit. Stealing is just a function of the game. If you steal a pass from a Ratz, you get 1 pass. If you kill that same Ratz you get another pass. So if you were to do this for enough Ratz, theoretically you could skip the Mage portals in later stages because passes aren't taken away when you go to the next stage (at least last time I LPQed).

    Also, at level 30 Steal it's still only a 40% success rate. If a bandit were to do this, they'd have to put all of their skills on hold just to get this very slight advantage in LPQ.

    It was this way in GMS v62 so I don't see why it shouldn't be considered. I don't believe that adding this would do any harm because bandits are such an underplayed class, and 99% of them don't even touch Steal in the first place.

    Source: http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/924697-maplestory/faqs/42687 <<< CTRL + F - steal
     
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    If you look up steal mechanics, it says once an item has been obtained from a mob, you won't get that same item again when you kill it. So it doesn't matter.

    Either the person who wrote that guide doesn't know what they're talking about, or it's terribly outdated or something.
     
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    Ahh I did misunderstood you. I thought you would get 2 passes from a rats instead of 1 early.

    So, if I understand this right, this just makes you be able to get the passes faster? In the guide, all I see is that you can use steal to get the pass but it still didn't add you get another additional pass from same mob. Sorry for being stupid, I just don't know much about other jobs, so I let NaviNavi take care of the facts after this post.
     
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    Best way to test this is to just kill a bunch of things with steal and see if they drop their etc after a successful steal that didn't kill them in 1 hit. If they never drop another etc after a successful steal, than it would be working correctly.
     
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    Next revision, steal will work on LPQ mobs, but you will still only be able to obtain one ticket per mob.
     
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