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Make all cosmetic items purchasable by donor points.

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by Bok, Feb 6, 2017.

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    There are some items that aren't available via donor points, e.g throwing stars, effects, beauty coupons.
     
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    Yup, I would agree that every single item classified as "purely cosmetic" should be purchasable with donor points. Anything cosmetic is not pay to win.
     
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    Or you know...just a vote a few times and you will have beauty coupons, effects and throwing stars
     
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    Or they could take my suggestion and get more donations...
     
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    Getting more donations is not a reason for me to approve a suggestion. I don't run this server for money.

    For now I have no full answer on when things get changed donor related, we are focusing on more important stuff.
     
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    You don't donate to get new items. You donate to help the server stay alive and grow.
     
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    Just saying that principally, the mentioned items are purely cosmetic and should be allowed. Alright then, I understand the priority part.

    Not mutually exclusive.
     
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    Don't wanna go off-topic on this suggestion, so I'll just PM you.
     
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    As a regular voter.
    Please make all nongame item buyable.
    Cosmetics are just like clothes so whats the diff?
     
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    Cant tell if you mean making all items in 1) cashshop purchasable with vote NX or 2) making all items in cashshop purchasable with donor NX.

    Donor exclusive NX is there as a fun thing for donators, theyre cheaper to buy than regular NX clothes. It makes donors visible to the player population and helps show appreciation from the server for the support

    Its obvious that making all items bought with donor NX would make it Pay -to-win which Legends is against.

    EDIT: Eitherway I do think throwing stars should probably be added to possible things to buy with Donor points.
    I have mentioned hair/eyes/skin coupons to Kim and I believe its a suggestion that has been rejected - possibly for the fact that it can take someone 50k vote nx to get the hair they want (which is a huge advantage if you just buy the 50k donor pts)
     
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    If all cosmetic items in cash shop were purchasable with donor points, wouldn't that give donors an advantage in that they could just use all their vote cash for more gachapon,ap resets, etc. than non donors?
     
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    Well ap resets and gach aren't cosmetic items.
     
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    He means that they can just use their Vote Cash on Gachapon or AP Resets etc. and use their donor points for their cosmetics
     
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    Not all items. All cosmetic items. Which is a huge difference. This distinction is clearly made in the thread's title and OP ffs.

    Relevant topic is here: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/vip-experimental-hair-coupons.3599/

    I made this suggestion because I had been a victim of cruel chance, and spent about 56 tickets (over 117k nx) just to get the hair I wanted. It seemed many players were in agreement with me, however, some certain people did not like the idea.

    In particular, here are some relevant quotes from the naysayers:

    So basically, the option to spend your nx on cosmetics is your choice. You don't have to spend a single point of vote cash on cosmetics, and you can spend it all on gachapon and AP resets. Yeah, it's true that a person who donates doesn't have to make this choice. They could both have cosmetic items and spend all their vote cash on the items which affect gameplay, but so what? Why do the people who haven't put up any money toward this awesome server get to complain about anything when:

    So why would anyone not putting up any money to support the server have the right to complain about any sort of fairness? Cosmetic items for donor points is not pay to win. It's pay to look good.
     
  15. Heartiess
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    Donations are also meant to be exactly that, donations.
    If your only purpose is to pay until you get the hair you want, you arent donating anymore. Youre basically buying the hair.

    LionheartLionheart Not everyone has the means to support the server. Doesnt mean they shouldnt have a voice.
     
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    I'm not saying they shouldn't have a voice. I'm just saying their argument is stupid.

    Why don't you all put your money where your mouth is and from now on give nothing for donations, since in fact they are supposed to be "donations" and nothing more.

    Oh, another nice gem that can be turned around!

    "You don't vote to get new items. You vote to help the server stay alive and grow."

    So why do we lecture people who financially keep the server alive, but all the people who vote and complain about "unfairness" and "pay2win" get a free pass? Again, it's not about the items. Or is it?

    If we're only supposed to be voting and donating from the goodness of our heart and support of the server and we shouldn't be getting anything for it except a better community and a server without financial doom and gloom, I'm all for that. Just take away all incentives like vote cash and donor points. It would be a brave new experiment and I'd respect that.

    But if you want to give little rewards for voting and donating, well, you're opening pandora's box because now we get into debates like these where people think of only the items.. or potential items even, and feel jealous.

    One more thing:
    Also, not everyone has 12 hours a day of free time. I'm consistently working 50+ hours a week and little free time. And when I do bother to log on and grind a bit on maplestory, I'm practically falling asleep.

    So yeah, I get it. Not everyone has a job or their parent's credit card. Tough shit.
    Cause not everyone has the luxury to even play.
     
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