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Ammo + meso guard cost should be reduced if avoidability changes are to stick

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by ThuMay26, May 12, 2025.

  1. ThuMay26
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    Hi all, there have some recent major changes to avoidability and thieves' shadow shifter skill.

    Here are some screenshots from the May 2025 balance update:
    2025-05-12 141057 (5).png
    2025-05-12 141057 (1).png

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    Looks like there is some pretty big debate and divided opinions on these recent updates, and it remains to be seen how people will play through them and whether these changes will stay for good.

    However, if these changes were to stay, I would like to remind the community that there is an element that goes directly against the statements given during the Summer 2022 update:
    - found here: https://forum.maplelegends.com/inde...r-event-2022-balance-changes-explained.46741/

    2025-05-12 150100.jpg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Due to the reduced avoidability, thieves will undoubtedly have increased pot costs comparatively to other classes, and archers + sairs will incur increased cost as well.

    Please consider dropping the cost of ammos for archers/sairs by half, and perhaps reverting recharge cost of stars to pre-2022 values:
    2025-05-12 141057 (2).png
    *Note MTK recharge cost is greater than 85 mesos per star today

    Personally, I think shads deserve meso guard to be completely free with these magnitude of changes to their gameplay, but in sake of keeping with the vanilla definition of "meso" guard, perhaps reduce to cost by 90% of what it is currently?

    Would be open to see what the community thinks.
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2025
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    good ideas here. good luck
     
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    Shads prior would use like <40 pots for 2 HT runs, post balance patch its probably gonna still be <100
     
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    I don't think active shads will exist in HT anymore after this patch...
     
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    Thats another matter, yes
     
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    Proclamation of the Holy Nerf: A Lament for the Lords of Night
    As spoken by the Herald of Balance, under moonlight and patch notes

    "Harken, children of shadow and greed, ye triple-star throwers of 30k constitution. The hour has come."

    Once, in the age of broken balance, the Night Lords reigned supreme atop their brittle perch of stars and avoid. With claws sharp as hypocrisy and HP pools shallow as their humility, they danced unseen, untouched, leeching in PQs, cloaked in bathrobes and borrowed int gear.

    "Twas they who flew highest while squinting at DPM charts, blind to the toll their hubris wrought. With each Shadow Shifter and Triple Throw, they drew nearer to the sun — and verily, the devs saw it, and it was disgusting."

    Lo! The Council of Balance did descend from their sacred spreadsheets, wielding the sacred Code of Adjustment. And with a flick of the divine cursor, they clipped thy wings, O Night Lords.

    No longer shalt thou leafre-hop through maps dodging responsibility.
    No longer shalt thou milk the good graces of SE mules and Bishops like cosmic leeches.
    No longer shalt thy hp washed existence be justified by high numbers and low effort.

    And what say you now, children of the stars?
    Cry ye in FM, cloaked in chaos scrolls and cope?
    Spam ye thy grievances in Discord, where no one listens but the void and fellow shadows?

    "Mourn, ye Lords of Night, for your reign has waned. The darkness from whence you came reclaims you. In this age of retribution, your nerf is not a punishment—it is mercy."

    So let it be written in the scriptures of MapleLegends: He who throws stars shall also catch nerfs.
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2025
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