Magician Bishoper's bishop guide for new players

This is a better shitpost than any of the 2023 shitposts combined, bravo

 

LmaO I thought magic def was for spell attack

 

DellyCassey have you considered joining the OddJobs guild on your bishop?

 

- Start making guide
- guides received valid criticism and calculation formula
- asking people to leave because people pointed out some flaws for your guide
- ???

But honestly speaking my guy, seeing the resume for what you have done like the 14 TMA gloves selling at questionable price, Timeless Shield brought at a questionable price. It's questionable at best, i believe the effort was made, but the fact that you deflected a lot of criticism for the shield pricing and the guide is already a bad sign. I understand LUK mages could work if you try hard enough by possibly allocating some INT into LUK which sacrificing some damage just to wear the Timeless EQS, Elemental Staff and the.....RGB timeless shield. But given the maths by other people, was it really worth it?

If i were to sacrifice some int for luk (like about 25+) just for that sweet sweet timeless gear for flex, i don't mind as it is negligible as i can recover it back with timeless gear right?. (even tho there's other high luk mage overall that met the requirement which also give int/ magic attack status back but we're not talking about that for now)

But for Elemental Staff/Wand

That thing cost 165 LUK to equip

and Average Mage at LVL 160 by now should have about 60 LUK or possibly more
and let's assume i already sacrifice some int for luk for timeless gear which barely made back my damage gain from usual int gear. (which total up to 100 luk now)

The 65 Luk is gonna be a huge stretch as if i were to compare the total magic attack between Staff and Wand which is 185 vs 150 at MAX

Sure you gain 35 Magic Attack more, but you have to factor in the 65 LUK which is the 65 INT you sacrificed which lead to 30 int loss just for the staff. Now i gotta really ask myself, i sacrificed my stats, but was it worth it?

And oh did i not mention about the Maple Warrior stat boost as well?

int lost for sacrificing to luk 65*10% (MW 20) = 6.5 (6 int)

int lost accounting into the staff gain: 30*10% = 3 int

so essentially you lost about 33 int yeah (possibly more or less if i factor in the int i sacrifice for timeless gear)

So overall i'm not sure where you're getting at, but hey at least some creative thoughts matters right?

 

If that was the case you'd see luk bishops being even slightly relevant. This server is so far advanced there's a reason we have 1700+ tma lukless mages here, and not luk mages.

 

do i scroll all the timeless/reverse quips with overall for DEF scrolls and shield for DEF and perfect it with white scrolls so i can have the best magic and weapon def since i dont want to underestimate those stats

 

removed NLC pots then we could watch these un-vanilla mfs counting every single Def stats they got

 

Huh

 

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Show your math if you're going to make wild claims. I've found that an increase of 200 defense will reduce magic damage by roughly 30. Let us assume you do 400 HT runs from 160-200, a fairly standard number for someone who makes that their main content. For the main portion of the fight, you can roughly assume there'll be 20 reduce-able hits per minute for about 60 minutes, for about 1200 reduce-able hits per run, or 48,000 reduce-able hits across your Horntailing career. So in grand total across a full bossing career you can expect the addition of 200 magic defense to decrease damage by a total of 1.44mil. It's also something that only even makes sense if you're going to live in a fantasy world where 1/1's don't exist and don't completely negate any additional benefits of defense on costs, but I digress in giving this wacky math any benefit of the doubt.

To put that 1.44mil hp/mp into perspective, you can probably assume a Ginger Ale will heal ~27k between the hp and mp at the cost of 6500 mesos. This means that on average, you'll save 54 Ginger Ales in total, which brings your meso savings to 350k by doing 400 HTs with Timeless Mage equips.(It's actually 0 mesos as 1/1s don't care but we can all use a bit of fantasy)

 

to op: have you actually ask any mages that actually uses elemental staff? best if it is someone that do end game contents. I do know someone and magic defence / weapon defence is not even in any consideration of building a 100/165 luk mage

 

Alyosha Hear me out, what if magic defense rolled a %chance to nullify a 1/1 attack... Kinda like how avoid rolls a %chance to avoid most damage
MR users would be in shambles

 

Also need to max Magic Armor instead of MG too, don't wanna waste the SP on a useless skill.

 

The biggest problem is timeless + reverse items are untradable.
Once you hit a better one, you will see the old one can only be npc.
You will cry!

 

I've gone from 1 to 193 so far on my bishop as a luk mage, and never once did I pretend it's superior to luk-less. It's a build with big flaws and tiny benefits compared to pure int; you do it because you're addicted to the SUPREME drip, not some cope about defense being some mega slept on stat.

If anything though, this is a great thread. I was kicking around the idea of making a guide/commentary on luk maging, but now I see that I HAVE to.

 

It's *technically* possible to run ele staff as lukless but you need some stupid chaos scrolled gear to do it without losing damage. Like 1 in (1/11)^20 type odds. Technically possible if a thousand people with an infinite amount of scrolls all sit around scrolling for a few years. I can post my math later but it's based on my personal v83 server so some things might not be exactly the same. That being said this is the most coherent guide I've ever red. Thanks for posting.

 

technically everyone knows already