Thief Blu's Full Guide For Shadowers

Is there any viability in getting Shield Mastery over Chakra? I know def formulas are doodoo but doubling your def on top of doubling your effective health(meso guard) on top of high avoid(nimble body and shadow shifter) sounds like a great idea to me. Much more than being able to heal yourself by chugging mp and hoping to not get hit during the cast.

 

Good questions

 

The endgame shield for shads is the dragon khanjar, which has an average 5 def. Doubling that is negligible. There can be an argument for timeless list having a higher ceiling for att, which actually has some def as well. But scrolling one that is better than what you can get from dragon khanjars is so prohibitively expensive that it isn't really practical

 

Ah, no you're absolutely right. I always misread the description as defense, period. Not shield defense.

Super disappointing lol, if the skill(s) just doubled your defense I think there would be a solid argument to take it as a Shadower and as a Hero/Paladin

 

I know your question is aimed at OP but since you haven't got a response yet I'll give you my 2 cents.

Getting hit by 1/1 while at 30k hp should cost 11.7k mesos. That seems pretty rough but it's not too bad in practice.

Papulatus
At 18.750 or 30.000 hp there's not much reason to use meso guard. In fact you can get a bit more dpm for not having to recast it every 120 seconds (and after dispels).

Zakum
Zak does 1/1 right? It's hard to tell because best dpm on body comes from doing assassinate+dash while tanking touch damage. This also prevents getting stunned and stuff. You could get hit with a 1/1 when charging assass during weapon cancels but this should only hit you once or twice per run.

At my current 13k ish hp I still use meso guard but I imagine once I get 18k+ I can survive two body hits and run without meso guard comfortably.

Jiaoceng
Same as zakum you'll be tanking body for optimal dpm but since it doesn't hit too hard you won't be using meso guard once you have high enough hp.

Horntail
I think I get hit with 1/1 about 2-4 times each run, maybe a bit more when you're seduce target (as you get less iframes). Less than 100k mesos per run is a small price to pay for a big increase in survivability.

Nibergen
You'll be tanking body hits to get your optimal dpm so you likely won't get hit with 1/1 at all (you can dodge them during cancels).

The Boss
I haven't run this yet but I image you'll either be tanking body or tanking summons so you wouldn't get hit much by 1/1. But idk.

Pink Bean and friends (statues)
Also haven't run this yet but if you get 18.750 hp you'll have the option of using meso guard when there's no HB or not using meso guard when there is. Or being extra safe and using both, it's nice to have options.

I probably forgot some bosses..

 

ty buddy!

 

Also notably, the more HP you have, the more cost efficient pots like honsters/ginsengs/whatever becomes. That will end up saving you more mesos than the increased meso guard usage from 1/1s

 

Wow thank you so much this seems very thorough! My main is a sindit so this is much apppreciated! Great layout and work!

 

Can you make a video on how to meso explosion grind at 70-80?

 

There are many videos about that on youtube, if it helps

 

Any recommendations on what to search ?

 

get at least 1 point in mesos guard to more surviability

get some points in band of thieves to self lure mobs

at this point have alot of mob better than this video, but no much data from YouTube

https://youtu.be/S96TiHMsm7Y

https://youtu.be/0t7W2_o65Y4

https://youtu.be/hVEEzOqy5X0


I think himes w/ priest is a good option
https://youtu.be/kTXtCpO6cuw

 

As for goby, I'd recommend not Bombing houses but rather using Assaulter and SB on stun proc to break it at a faster pace and without getting magical damage, finally Bombing the fishes. Tho if you're full int base CB, u probably might wanna skip goby since u won't have much dmg on Assaulter + SB.

Also, this is how it looks like with a decent dmg range here, might wanna take off pet meso loot to reuse meso drops for re-bombing.

 

Hi, I'm new with shad main and it helped a lot. TY
However, I have some questions with our recent changes.
1. We have new bosses in Neo Tokyo pt 2. I heard Aufheben cancels buffs a lot, so meso guard is useless in there. How much HP do we need for Auf?

2. We got assassinate buffed, can used without ds and gives defense neglect buff if fully charged, does it changes our decent combos?

 

dam that bring some old days , hope to see you back one day Tim

 

I'm currently lv 71 and im failing (and dying) trying to mesos explode can someone show me how to do it properly in game?

 

you have mesos guard?

 

Yee also why is band of thieves 210% dmg instead of 250%?