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BMs will never be able to use Facestompers

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Selquin, Jul 22, 2020.

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    Here is something you can try with your character, start walking right with your character and then try to turn around without moving left. If you are using non-snowshoes, you will find that this is probably relatively easy. However, if you are wearing snowshoes, you will find that this is impossible. When you tap left to change directions, your character always moves a bit to the left no matter how quickly you tap left. This has important consequences for Bowmasters in HT.

    The optimal right side strategy for BMs in HT involves a precise movement sequence similar to the exercise I described in the perious paragraph, which I will call a pivot. I won't go over the strategy in detail here (you can read about it Here if you would like), but all you need to know is that this wearing snowshoes does not allow you to execute pivot required, making this strategy not possible. Thus if facestompers ever come out along with PB, and if facestompers have the same traction properties as snowshoes, it will not be a best in slot item for BMs (at least not in HT).

    EDIT: I have been informed that FC probably wont have the traction property. The clickbait tittle served as a good means to explain an obscure interaction though :^)
     
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    You could ways jump and turn around in the air, but that's gonna take extra time by which you'll get hit again and need to move back to position.

    Gotta love all the avoid you guys have
     
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    I did consider this too, but the problem with this is that you need your jump stat to be very low, otherwise you jump too far and it becomes too precise.
     
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    Unfortunately I'm 140 speed 123 jump passively pepehands
    You do usually want max jump to traverse the ropes though, so I think it would still be worth keeping the jump.
     
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    adapt or die caveman
     
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    Facestompers would be nice for pre-heads. :yay: Extra dmg + 50% of the super knock back.

    caveWOMAN
     
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    Can't you just jump and tap left to face left? i would assume that a super slight tap would be enough to turn but not enough to move? Or am i getting it wrong?

    What i mean is basically just the same concept used when trying to squeeze between fm stores. (jump tap.. jump tap.. squeeze those pixels).
     
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    The reason jumping right and tapping left is difficult in this case is because in the context of this particular HT situation, you need to get to the edge of the platform fairly quickly after getting kbed. The BM would be holding hurricane at the edge of the top platform while buffering an --> input, so when the kb happens you immedietly start walking right to not fall off. Normally you want to walk back into position and pivot left, but if you want to do this with a jump + tap left you have to be a certain distance from the edge. The length of the platform is too short to comfortably jump to the edge, and you dont really have much time to set it up either before the next KB attack comes.

    It might be easier to visualize what I'm talking about with an example, here is a clip of me executing the strat,
     
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    ahhh i see what you mean now. so you wanna be right at the right end of that ledge for safety. kb right you fall on the platform below, kb left you have room to manoeuvre back.

    Cheers. TIL.
     
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    should we be expecting this in the next patch notes
     
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    Sorry did I miss a memo somewhere or is that early onset Alzheimers starting to come true because I can't remember seeing a patch note that says facestompers are being introduced or will ever be introduced to this server
     
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    Don't lump me together with those 3rd rate BMs running around in HT these days REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
     
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