High Brawler - Optimal HP wash method not possible for Pirates.

Description of the bug: Using AP Reset scroll to reset MP into HP does not give the expected amount of HP. The scroll did not factor Brawler's Improve MaxHP skill therefore giving me missing out on 20 HP. Not only did the AP reset fail to implement the bonus from my skill, it only provided 18 instead of a static 20 which is what I believe is supposed to happen. EDIT: Was wrong here.

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After:


What is supposed to happen?: This HP Wash method is supposed to either:
A: Give a static 38 HP per reset or
B: Give 38 average HP with a random amount between 36-40 (might not be A or B, I'm theory-crafting with what I know so far).
Where did you find and/or notice this bug?: I was in Korean Folk Town.
A step-by-step guide to re-producing this bug:
1. After leveling, use 1 level up AP into HP (will provide 36-40 HP I believe)
2. Assuming you got enough spare MP, use 1 AP Reset scroll to reset MP into HP.
Extra information:
NOTE: This assumes that nothing been changed since last month.

I've made a post in character issues and staff responded over 3 weeks ago, they should be somewhat aware that something's not right.

Gunslingers should be getting a static 20 HP when using an AP reset scroll to reset MP into HP. I'm able to confirm this in another server (MapleRoyals) but do not own a Gunslinger here to test if it's working as intended. Slingers may only get 16-20 in MapleLegends using either method, though not 100% positive.

Assuming that Brawlers behaves similarly, they should be getting 38 HP average per wash using AP reset method when their Improve MaxHP skill is level 10. I've gotten 18, which means HP Increase Skill is not working as intended.

Pirates are unintentionally nerfed due to this bug and this is why I consider this bug to be of high priority.

EDIT: My best theory so far is that Pirate's HP washing method differs between Legends and Royals, and that Legends correctly imitates old school GMS whilst Royals has their values changed. I am not sure why their server is different, as they aren't too open about this topic.

FINAL EDIT: Most likely a carry-over bug that was present in old GMS which has been brought over to ML, so it is up to MapleLegends staff to decide whether or not to change it.

 

Hi guys, due to the bug atm it's what you guys think would be the correct way. I thought the same way until I found out that it's supposed to be a static 40.

If you use the standard fresh AP from level up, it gives 36-40 which is working as intended. Once this bug is fixed, the AP reset method should give a static 40 HP, therefore the optimal method for washing for Pirates.

 

I played GMS way back and we only knew of the Fresh AP from Lvl up method. But as it stands today, the info from what we learned back then is outdated.

Archers and thieves do not gain extra from AP reset method, therefore it's cheaper to use fresh AP.
Warriors and Pirates gain a bit more HP using AP reset method, for those classes it is better to do AP reset method.

If you actually read the thread properly, you would realize that I am familiar with HP washing with both methods. The guide you linked only shows the fresh AP way, which I'm only gaining 36-40 per wash. Assuming the bug affects all Pirates no Brawler is getting guaranteed 40 HP, and no Gunslinger is getting guaranteed 20 HP using AP reset method. The Fresh AP from lvl up method is working as intended and it's not a bug, but you will lose a bit of HP compared to AP reset method assuming that it's not bugged. If you think I'm wrong on anything feel free to correct me, provided you have numbers and evidence supporting it.

It's how the game work as far as I know, and as mentioned earlier, Warriors and Pirates should do the AP reset method. If there is to be a change, then make the HP gain the same with both methods.

EDITED for clarity.

 

Source of info is here on Chew's guide.
https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/advanced-hp-wash-calculator-v0-41.16508/
Click on Assumptions Tab and you will see expected HP gains for all classes with both methods. According to his guide the source is from Navi who's a staff member here.

 

No, what I'm saying that back then everyone only knew of the Fresh AP from level up method, which is many years ago.
I would continue to do the standard way only if it guarantees 40 HP, but as it stands it's 38 average, which is a nerf from 40 from the AP reset method. :/

 

You lose only a tiny bit of HP on average (0.5) so it's fine to do that way.

Pirates lose 2 avg (18 vs 20, 38 vs 40), and uses 16 MP per wash, so it really matters for them.