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Bring back SUMMONING SACKS

Discussion in 'Rejected' started by Daydreamer, Aug 23, 2017.

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  1. Daydreamer
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    Daydreamer Headless Horseman

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    These things were pretty fun in oldschool MS. They only got removed from Legends cuz people are sensitive babies. Bring them back!
     
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    Also, it seems they were just removed from quests without being replaced with anything, that sucks.
     
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    Yeah, I spent a bunch of time doing an Omega Sector quest that was supposed to give a summoning sack. Got nothing instead. WTF.
     
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    They didn't get removed because people were sensitive babies, Kim removed them as a follow up of someone spawning a Balrog in every 1st Job Advancement Place for Magicians iirc

    I do want them back though
     
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    Guess you can take away the sacks but you can't take away the wants for summon trollings. SlimeBlush
     
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    i managed to get 6 or 10 for 2 characters before they removed the sacks
    i killed some thief /bowman & priest / bishop at ws and viking ..wakakaka..:roflmao:
     
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    That's pretty funny.
    Was this really the cause? That seems like a very harsh reaction.
    I mean, all a dude, whos looking to jobadvance, would have to do, was go to FM and shout "theres a balrog in ellenia", and he'd be able to advance in 5 minutes...
     
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    The problem was that they were too easy to obtain through GPQ. Also FM wasn't as crowded as it is now.

    That's just for the jr rog sacks though. The others were removed to reduce harassment/drama in line with how defaming was altered.

    Edit: imagine a new player going to get their first job advancement and finding a jr rog in every channel. You'll quickly lose people because of something silly like that.
     
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    I'd imagine players who give up that easily, would stop playing the day they started this server because of the exp ratios anyway.

    I can see how drama could be started because of these bags, but really, I've seen kids fight over biscuits, anything and everything can set them off.
    I don't think it's fair to ban these bags because of people's lack of selfcontrol.
     
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    Instead of removing them all together, why not just restrict where you can use them?
    That way, nobody gets hurt & people can still have fun with them.
     
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    That's a good idea, would be fun to have a single map in a single ch where people could spawn the bags. Pure carnage!
     
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    The sacks really do not have any purpose aside from griefing, harassing, and bullying newbies.
     
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    They can be used to get to otherwise unreachable spots using assaulter and I've managed to win a game of omok by opening one. And I'm sure there's more creative uses other than attacking other players.

    But yea you're right about how they normally get used.
     
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    Thought this was MapleLegends not MapleSafeSpace
     
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    Suggestion:

    Bring back summoning sacks and make them tradable.
    This way, people who want to kill noobs can freely do so, at the cost of not reselling them.
    The people who just want to hoard them (to feel powerful?) can also do as they please.

    If spawning mobs in critical areas (job advancement place, PQ locations, etc) is deemed a concern,
    either restrict those areas from summoning sacks,
    or add a expiry time to the monsters summoned via sacks, given if that's possible.

    In my opinion,
    as long as the FM teleport function remains a thing,
    spawning rogs at job advancement places will cause little to no harm to the newbie player base,
    as I doubt anyone would care to drop all their mesos on sacks and spawn Rogs across all 9 channels.
     
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    I was so surprise the first time I heard people saying that summoning sack for the time. Why would someone remove something everyone love.MapleF4 or maybe just make it so you can not summoning in towns?
     
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    I played GMS in Scania server back before Big Bang. Even with such a crowded server and no/very few GMs, harassment with summoning backs was pretty rare. When Legends was smaller, I could see harassment and spawns in every channel being an issue. With the player count as high as it is now, it can't be too hard to get a guildie/person from FM to come kill the mob so you can job advance. If someone is following you, harassing you, and spamming summon bags, they should be banned. Targeted harassment via summoning bags is targeted harassment; using summoning bags outside of KPQ is a harmless prank.

    Another server I was on had made it so that you did not lose EXP if you died in towns. This might be a good solution, as it would make being killed by summoning bags nothing more than an amusing annoyance in the worst case scenario.
     
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    if it's a problem in places like job advancement then disable it in all city maps
     
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    Killing noobs is half the fun, but I think it should be disabled in job advancement maps and Lith Harbor.
     
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    I have no plans to bring back summoning sacks at this point.
     
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