Buccaneer - ST and Energy Orb & more

...I have no idea what to say more...so I'd just mute from now.

 

Maybe they arent dispelling mage? That sounds far from typical

Regardless, I'd rather see some form of quantification from an archer on the tradeoff between getting hit with the sharks and repositioning vs not needing to puppet or sometimes even waste time walking over to re-buff si/se if fighting from the far side. BM probably loses more than MM does here. NL can attack in air and reposition easier in the off chance it does get hit by shark, and a strong mm capable of soloing a boss with 40m more hp while puppeting faster than 3 people should know how to jump attack to reposition well enough to mitigate losses.

Sending non-bucc range attackers to cleave sounds significantly more painful than the sharks simply due to the stuns and NLs using... avenger on cleave bosses? I could be wrong, but I highly doubt that is a more effective use of resources to let your mm "be chill" for a few minutes. There's this odd obsession with maximizing personal dpm without regard to effective use of time of the squad. That's how we get into situations like barrage and demo on cleave bosses.

Any squad that has cleave finish first is forced to sit and wait as range finishes pirate or force everyone to deal with insane iframes. That's wasted time that could have been spent allowing everyone to attack the mage. If range finishes first, that's (usually) not due to a fast pirate solo and the ranged party (including the archer) has to put up with the sharks regardless. At high levels this becomes less of an issue as the archers do get stronger, but other range also gets stronger and would likely still down mage first.

There is a good chance in many squads that the Buccaneer's options are to either: speed up the mage kill by being on range and be forced to pivot to cleave (with a significant loss in time effectiveness) to a cleave party that shouldnt really be depending on the bucc to cleave flex in the first place, or to start on cleave and be less effective than if they were on range. This second option specifically still risks speeding up cleave and leaving the cleave party stuck waiting for pirate to finish regardless (if mage were saved for last, the bucc probably should've been on it from the beginning, unless cleave REALLY needs the help). The buccaneer strength in cwk is its flexibility in placement or pivoting in case of dcs, but it is still a much better use of party resources to maximize their mage uptime.

There's a time and place for archer puppeting pirate and good reason why it is considered "meta". mostly in strong ranged duos imo (which I guess if 2 NLs + bucc = 1 mm you can possibly consider it like a duo), but people are far too eager to blindly apply a years-old meta without thinking about their squad composition to decide if its the best use of resources. If there is any chance of cleave finishing first, for example, there is a good possibility that puppet is not the play.

To seriously wish to effectively utilize a buccaneer at higher levels, is to recognize that although they can pivot to cleave when needed, they provide most of their usefulness on pinning/damaging mage and are barely passable on cleave. A disparity that can likely outweigh the benefits of avoiding sharks a little bit longer in a *normal* party.

 

CWKPQ sucks, end of discussion

 

So does all bossing content outside even points o.o perhaps a small incentive to boss would be neat

 

It has a 1 hour timer, what's not no enjoy?

 

It needs 30min timer, then cwkpq will be great again

 

Funny enough all bosses in current Maple have a 30min timer. I also think if we remove cancels many bosses could go down to at least the meme 1-hour timer o.o perhaps

 

Royals has them, not sure if it's all of them but a number of non-ST skills are useable in ST there.

 

Would be really nice to have corkscrew blow available in ST to help mobility. I remember I got a mount for HT just so that I could cross sides faster to buff during ST...only to find out you can't even mount when transformed.

And also it would be nice to barrel...for reasons

 

Black Mage has an one hour timer

 

Yeah fair enough, figured it wouldn't be a simple copy paste.

 

I'd imagine the only skills that would really see any use transformed would be corkscrew for like ht or maybe grind, energy drain (technically already useable but the animation is like twice as long so it's basically unuseable as itd be a finisher move), echo, and MP recover. The latter two may not even need an animation at all, though I have no clue what the code looks like/supports. Other skills might see fringe use especially while maxing other skills, but those are the ones I think would get the most use in the end (once snatch is maxed basically).

I dont think any of these are a requirement to make the class work these days, though if I had to pick one skill to have, its MP recover for me

 

Time to upgrade to v 0.83

 

Ok but aesthetically speaking I most definitely want to go SUPAH SAIYAJIN without turning off 80% of my moveset.

It's just awesome, spices up the grind for like 5 seconds sometimes.

 

fr, being able to use mp recover while xformed is such a cool qol change. Talk about pot cost as a shad/bucc